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Where do you guys store all the “Other” stuff?
Posted by Jeff Carrion on July 12, 2007 at 5:56 pmJust got a brand spankin new Mac Pro setup with FCS2.
So I now have the rare opportunity to do a real pristine clean-as-a-whistle install of everything. So, where do you guys choose to install all the supporting media that comes with FCS? The default locations on the system drive or on one of your other media drives?
BTW-This also brings up a point that I would love to hear some of your methods of file organization. Where do you save files, what system of naming files/media clips do you use, how do you structure you folders and such?
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Shane Ross
July 12, 2007 at 6:01 pmI let FCP install things where it wants to. I will not go about mucking up the way my NLE wants to organize things.
As for how to organize everything else, I do have a tutorial DVD on this subject, and it is sold right here at the cow (look at the ads on the bottom right of the screen…one of them is mine).
Here’s the link:
https://training.creativecow.net/dvd_store/get_organized_fcp/get_organized_fcp.html
Shane

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Jeff Carrion
July 12, 2007 at 6:34 pmThe defaults eh?
I wasn’t sure if having all that media on the system drive would harm performance or cause dropped frames problems, like having regular media on the system drive will.
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Shane Ross
July 12, 2007 at 6:42 pmSoundtrack files…they are audio. They don’t suffer slowdowns like video does. Motion Files, Livetype files…you don’t have them playing back in RT on a video timeline. You use them in Motion, which you then export as a movie file…and THAT file is what you put on your media drive. DVD contents…again, used to build a DVD, not as media for playback. So there is no reason not to have them on your main drive. If you want to use a motion graphic as live video in your projects (like I have done), COPY what you want to the media drive and then use it.
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David Roth weiss
July 12, 2007 at 6:46 pm[Shane Ross] “I let FCP install things where it wants to. I will not go about mucking up the way my NLE wants to organize things.”
Here, here!!! I’m with Shane on this one. Standardizing things is always a good idea. There is no compelling reason in these days of cheaper, faster and better hard drives to dink around with this stuff, not to mention the fact that one of the cardinal rules of setting up an NLE should be to assume that your system will one day be driven by someone else when you’re not around. So, having everything in its rightful place will make it that much easier for anyone to find the stuff where its expected to reside.
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J. Tad newberry
July 12, 2007 at 7:10 pmgo ideas here Shane…but exporting movie files from Motion? i’m assuming you mean to be used on the timeline in FCP? i’ve always been just using the Motion file itself in FCP (though obviously suffering some horrendous render times), have also had trouble exporting a Motion movie with an alpha channel to super in on top of my timeline (lower thirds, etc.). i have at times exported a tga image sequence from Motion, then bring it into it’s own FCP sequence, and then using the sequence as the supered graphic, but if there is a better way to export an alpha-ed Motion project i’m all ears! : )
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Jeff Carrion
July 12, 2007 at 7:11 pmAhhh, yes, it all makes sense now! Thanks.
Now here’s the million gigabite question: I have a few older systems running FCS1 where I installed the “other” stuff in various places on their scratch disks. Is there a simple/uncomplicated way to re-install the stuff (Soundtrack, Livetype, DVDSP, and Motion media) in the default locations? This would free up all that space on my scratch disks that is being permantly taken up by that content.
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Shane Ross
July 12, 2007 at 8:01 pmMortimer…I haven’t done lower thirds with MOtion yet, so I haven’t had to deal with the Alpha channel…yet. SO I don’t know what to do about that..yet.
Jumpy…the only thing I can suggest is to remove FCP and all the components and reinstall…so you know they are in the right place. because the Motion stuff is installed in the computers Library…a little burried.
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Pxlmvr
July 13, 2007 at 12:57 pmFor me, as far as file organization, I use the ‘Shared’ folder under ‘Users’ on your hard drive. That is the folder that everyone on the network has access to; no passwords needed. I create a ‘Projects’ folder there and inside that, ‘Current Projects’ and ‘Archived Projects’ folders. Current projects get a folder with client number or project number. Inside that folder, I set set up Audio, Graphics, Supers and Misc. folders.
I always render out Motion or Photoshop supers as Self-Contained Quicktimes or TGA files because I use templates. This way the original file never gets changed down the road.
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David Rowan
July 18, 2007 at 5:59 pmThis refers to the stuff you use in a project, and not all the extra system “goodies”
I work on lots of short daily projects. Whenever I generate LiveType or Motion stuff, or when I import graphics from other people, I put them in the same capture-scratch folder where my video clips are.
If I am starting a project and I don’t have the tapes yet, but I have some of the other materials, I will just capture a moment of nothing, just to force the system to create a capture-scratch folder.
When I have bigger projects I create sub-folders in the capture scratch folder for the project. Then I can just drag that folder into the project and it becomes its own bin (This is handy when I have a lot of stills and want to use thumbnails for them. I don’t usually use thumbnails for my video clips)
When I’m done with a project all the media is one place. I can delete it all, or back it up without hunting all over.
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Michael Johnson
August 22, 2008 at 4:28 pmYou’re not concerned about saving your project files to the system drive? I used to do that until my system crashed; lost everything. Since then, I have a second internal drive that gets all project files. Auto-saves go to a separate drive. And the project folder gets backed-up regularly.
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Second System: G4 1Ghz DP, 1 GB RA
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