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  • When is Black Black?

    Posted by David Ludwig on April 20, 2009 at 4:24 pm

    I just rendered a spinning logo and ProType text on a black BG. Looks great in Vegas (8c), but in Windows Media Player the black BG looks not quite black and is surrounded by a true black border in the player.

    How do I make sure that my BGs are black black?

    Thanks.

    David Ludwig replied 17 years, 3 months ago 3 Members · 13 Replies
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  • Mike Kujbida

    April 20, 2009 at 4:58 pm

    It sounds like your blacks are at 16-16-16.
    Make sure they’re at 0-0-0.

  • David Ludwig

    April 20, 2009 at 5:32 pm

    where?

  • David Ludwig

    April 20, 2009 at 6:23 pm

    The text was generated w/ProType. No FX on the track or the event.

  • Mike Kujbida

    April 20, 2009 at 6:27 pm

    When you say “black background”, where does it come from?

  • Mike Kujbida

    April 21, 2009 at 12:33 am

    I’m not sure what to say David.
    I recreated this title, rendered it out as DV-AVI, MPG-2 and WMV (3 mbps) and brought all 3 back into Vegas.
    They all looked identical on the scopes and I didn’t see anything like you’re describing.
    My suspicion, and that’s all it is, is that it’s either your monitor or (more likely) Media Player and not Vegas that’s at fault.

  • David Ludwig

    April 21, 2009 at 12:43 am

    thanks for taking a look, mike.

  • Mike Kujbida

    April 21, 2009 at 12:49 am

    David, out of curiosity, what format and setting did you render to?

  • David Ludwig

    April 21, 2009 at 1:55 am

    rendered to WMV.

    best
    quality VBR
    872×480
    PAR=1
    29.97
    keyframe every 3 sec
    quality 100%
    stretch to fill

    i guess it’s a non-issue. i use WMV as an intermediate on my way to Flash. there are no borders around the flash movie, i was just concerned that i may have overlooked something in vegas.

    thanks again for your help.

  • Mike Kujbida

    April 21, 2009 at 2:00 am

    Thanks for the update.
    I’m glad to hear that it’s resolved.

  • David Shirey

    April 21, 2009 at 2:16 pm

    I don’t know if this is related at all, but I have always found Window’s Media Player, and subsequently any other media players that just act as a an intermediary for window’s built in video playback, to be a little random. I haven’t tried in Vista but ever since XP first came out, I’ve been able to play the exact same file and have it look two entirely different ways. Almost as though there’s a brightness/contrast filter that sometimes gets applied to playing videos. If I set up a series of videos to play, or the same video playing several times in a playlist, it pretty much does it to every other instance like clockwork. I don’t know if that’s a common problem, but perhaps it could be what was affecting David? Either way, my solution has always been to not use (or at the very least not trust,) WMP.

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