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  • what’s the advantage of working with 2K plates?

    Posted by Damian Dunne on June 3, 2005 at 4:07 am

    Hey guys,
    I was at a conference the other day and the compositior who was demonstrating Discreet’s/Autodesk’s new product ‘Toxic’ was talking about 2K plates. So I was wondering what the differences are with working in 16bit, 24bit and these 2K files or plates?

    Is 2K a a transfer from telecine…. instead of asking for a Digibeta master you would ask for a 2K master? How would you then capture it? A 2K deck?

    There are quite a few questions here. Any help would be aprriciated.
    cheers
    D.

    Barend Onneweer replied 20 years, 11 months ago 6 Members · 9 Replies
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  • Mylenium

    June 3, 2005 at 4:56 am

    “Plate” simply refers to the canvas/comp size. 2k normally means scanned film which has nothing to do with any of the available video formats. Unless you filmed at this resolution, you can ask for it all you want but your DigiBeta won’t magically transform into it. Larger bit depths give more headroom for effects ‘cos there is less internal rounding. This is especially important with color correction, keying and excessive blur/ optical stuff.

    Mylenium

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  • Chris Smith

    June 3, 2005 at 4:57 am

    2k is a resolution as opposed to a bit depth. When you do your film transfer, you will need to use a 2k capable machine (like the common DaVinci 2k). It will not go to Digibeta as digi is an SD format. Usually 2K goes to a hard disk or DLT tape. I have a buddy that did the condensation drop running down the side of a Corona bottle that drips onto a plant in After Effects. The shot starts in very tight then pulls out. This was actually just shot as a wide shot. The pull out was done in post. But since they needed all that extra res, they transfered the select shot to some 2k tiff files. He brough these into AE and did the effect on the shot, then zoomed (scaled up) into it as a whole integrated unit. Since the output was SD, the zoom in still held true.

    2k is used a lot for film res work for theatrical release. Some do 4k but I have read that there isn’t much difference between 2k and 4konce up on the big screen so it’s not worth the overhead of using 4k.

    We did a spot recently promoting the film Madagascar and Denny’s. We transferred to Digi for the offline. Then once the selects were decided, they re-transferred the selects to 2k so the Dreamworks animators could repo the film if needed to make their characters fit in the film better.

    So there are many uses for 2k.

    Chris Smith
    https://www.sugarfilmproduction.com

  • Damian Dunne

    June 3, 2005 at 5:15 am

    ahh ok thanks guys and thanx Chris for going into some great detail.

    So if PAL is 720X576 and 16:9 is ect ect, what is the resolution with 2K?

    cheers
    D.

  • Damian Dunne

    June 3, 2005 at 5:15 am

    ahh ok thanks guys and thanx Chris for going into some great detail.

    So if PAL is 720X576 and 16:9 is ect ect, what is the resolution with 2K?

    cheers
    D.

  • Chris Smith

    June 3, 2005 at 5:21 am

    2048×1556

    Chris Smith
    https://www.sugarfilmproduction.com

  • Damian Dunne

    June 3, 2005 at 5:40 am

    LEGEND!! Thanx mate!
    D.

  • Greg Cotten

    June 3, 2005 at 4:00 pm

    Chris, I am assuming it is square pixels… correct?

    -Greg

  • Jason Rayles

    June 3, 2005 at 4:01 pm
  • Barend Onneweer

    June 3, 2005 at 5:33 pm

    [Greg Cotten]
    Chris, I am assuming it is square pixels… correct?”

    Yes, for other aspect ratios a part of the image is usually cropped out.

    Bar3nd

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