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  • Chris Harlan

    July 14, 2012 at 5:39 pm

    [Oliver Peters] ” PProCS6 was more a UI overhaul than anything else”

    Of course, for most of us bobble-heads out there the UI is what its mostly about.

    [Oliver Peters] “The Adobe approach is simply a closer fit into the FCP “legacy” workflow than Avid is. “

    Actually, one of the things that is exciting about it, is the degree to which it is a closer fit to both FCP and MC. Sort of the best of both worlds approach. Not that they actually got the best of both worlds in all instances, but it is definitely a middle ground that I’m fond of.

    One MC inovation that no one seems to want to flatter most sincerely is the Source time line. It can be amazingly useful, and one of the basic editorial elements I really like about MC. But, maybe I’m alone in fetishizing it.

  • Timothy Auld

    July 14, 2012 at 6:31 pm

    No, you’re not alone. I find it immensely useful and miss it very much when I’m on other systems.

    Tim

  • Aindreas Gallagher

    July 14, 2012 at 7:00 pm

    yes for sure – its almost funny at this point how tip toe it all is, my hair was on fire six months ago and absolutely nothing has changed – although I am expecting it to start shaking out to premiere in many instances – eventually – its the easiest switch I think.

    I got a full day run through off a soho online editor on Avid – its a powerhouse alright – but its verrry different. Also the effect handling is, to put it mildly, weird I thought. thats not a value judgement – just that all things being equal, its hard not to see the FCP editor opting for premiere if he has the choice.

    there are little hints of premiere coming in – I’ve seen one or two FCP job listings on mandy that also include premiere as an option.

    https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics

  • Aindreas Gallagher

    July 14, 2012 at 7:01 pm

    my one day smorgasbord with avid didn’t get to that – what’s this source timeline?

    https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics

  • Chris Harlan

    July 14, 2012 at 7:11 pm

    [TImothy Auld] “No, you’re not alone. I find it immensely useful and miss it very much when I’m on other systems.

    Tim

    Glad to hear! No one ever seems to mention it. You can kind of get next to it with multiple timelines in FCP7 and Pr6, but its not quite the same. Of course, when I’m in MC, I miss multiple timelines for other reasons, so it kind of evens out.

  • Michael Hancock

    July 14, 2012 at 9:32 pm

    When you load a clip or sequence into your source monitor you can toggle the timeline to show the source side, not the record side.

    Super useful to mark up long takes with locators, or to load a sequence and choose exactly which tracks you might want to cut into your sequence, etc… Also how you see the source side audio waveforms.

    To toggle the timeline from Record to Source, look at the bottom left of your timeline. You’ll have the fast menue, the focus button, then the Source/Record toggle. When it’s grey, you’re looking at the record side. When it’s highlighted green it’s source side.

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    Michael Hancock
    Editor

  • Oliver Peters

    July 14, 2012 at 9:45 pm

    [Michael Hancock] “When you load a clip or sequence into your source monitor you can toggle the timeline to show the source side, not the record side. “

    About now would be a good time to point here:

    https://digitalfilms.wordpress.com/2012/05/03/avid-media-composer-tips-for-the-fcp-switcher/

    – Oliver

    Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
    Orlando, FL
    http://www.oliverpeters.com

  • Chris Harlan

    July 15, 2012 at 2:49 am

    Thanks! I didn’t know about that Slip Perf. command. Nice overview, too.

  • Timothy Auld

    July 15, 2012 at 11:02 am

    I also also loved that I could grab anything from the timeline in MC, throw in up in the source monitor and use it as such. Very handy and often a big time saver.

    Tim

  • Oliver Peters

    July 15, 2012 at 12:40 pm

    Thanks. Steve Hullfish at PVC has been doing some switcher tips recently as well.

    Oliver

    Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
    Orlando, FL
    http://www.oliverpeters.com

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