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Jamie Thorne
April 11, 2011 at 5:19 pmAvid is pretty aggressive with their switching pricing; Adobe with their rental license.
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Scott Sheriff
April 11, 2011 at 5:36 pm“I learned on AVID Media Composer 6.5.3 in 1997. I am the kind of person who constantly hones his workflow, and my AVID workflow was razor-sharp. To that end, when I was forced to start using Final Cut, in Final Cut Pro version 2 (before “Studio” existed), I hated it. Eventually though, I stopped trying to run it like an AVID, honed a very different workflow, and became a Final Cut Studio devotee. I have used it exclusively for years now. After tomorrow’s announcement, however, I suspect my biggest question will be:”
I don’t get why you let the software define who you are as an editor?????
You sound like an equipment operator, not an editor.
If Apple goes out of business tomorrow, I’ll still be cutting. I was editing long before NLE’s came along, and will still be an editor on the next thing that comes along.
And if FCS goes the way of dinosaurs, so what? Maybe I’ll still be using FCP. I have a version that works, is stable, and does what I need. If some unseen thing comes along I have to do that my system won’t work on, then I’ll worry about “what if”.
And the way this industry is going, in five years it won’t matter anyway because this type of work will be as common as knowing how to use a word processor. And will probably pay the same.
For now, I’d rather spend my time shooting good footage and editing.Scott Sheriff
Director
https://www.sstdigitalmedia.comI have a system, it has stuff in it, and stuff hooked to it. I have a camera, it can record stuff. I read the manuals, and know how to use this stuff and lots of other stuff too.
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Eric Michael cap
April 11, 2011 at 5:52 pmVery astute move by Avid (50% discount for FCP users), especially if Apple fails to deliver with the new Final Cut version.
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Will Eccleston
April 11, 2011 at 5:57 pmI don’t get what you think it is about my post that says “I let the software define who I am as an editor”. What I am saying is that I’m very comfortable in my workflow right now, and I know it to be incredibly efficient. I realize that if I don’t find future versions of FCP useful that I’ll be able to use what I’m using now for awhile. However, it appears that I will, before too long, have to embrace a different workflow. Believe me, I’ve done it before, and I’ll do it again. I just would rather spend my time in other ways. That’s all.
If I were Apple, and I could sell 5000 copies of Final Cut Studio to professionals for 1000 bucks a pop, or 500,000 copies to anyone and everyone at 300 bucks a pop, it would be a no-brainer.
Will Eccleston
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Rob Grauert
April 11, 2011 at 5:58 pm“this type of work will be as common as knowing how to use a word processor. And will probably pay the same.”
It probably will become just as common, but I don’t think it will pay the same. You still have to know how to tell a story to be a good editor. As we all know, simply having the software doesn’t make you good at it.
People aren’t better writers just because they have Microsoft Word…
Rob Grauert, Jr.
http://www.robgrauert.com
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Bret Williams
April 11, 2011 at 6:06 pmI’ve actually gone to using the apple trackpad and love it. With the better touch tool plug-in I can program swipes to do all sorts of things like go to home, mark in, switch to canvas or viewer, etc. It’s nice to be able to sit back away from the desk with the track pad and control final cut (and the whole system) like a remote control. Now, if they gave that same support to an iPad, I’m sure there’d be even more enhancements that could improve things. Just putting the audio tool on the ipad would be pretty nice. Swipes and gestures to control movement and effects too would be welcome.
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Paul Jay
April 11, 2011 at 6:13 pmMy opinion:
Apple is NOT going to bring us a iMovie Pro.
Sure, they love selling iPads.
But they also like selling MacPro’s.
Apple isn’t that stupid to hijack the Supermeet and present a consumer app , when Blackmagic has released a Thunderbolt Pro i/o in the same week.They are not ‘that’ stupid.
https://www.blackmagic-design.com/?heroNum=3
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Bret Williams
April 11, 2011 at 6:14 pmWell, they have that. It’s called FC Express and I don’t thnk very many people buy it. How many $300 apps have you bought just to fool around with? People complain that iLife costs $70.
And apple makes it’s money off the hardware. Sure, FCP sells very little compared to other apps and iphones. But for many pro users it demands a hefty mac pro. And a couple 30″ displays. Extra expensive RAM (which they may get from Apple if they are foolish). It’s a whole relationship of apple hardware and licensed goods that brings in big bucks.
The iLife / Express buyer is happy with their imac and mac mini and whatever it came with to tool around with the cell phone videos to put on youtube.
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Gabe Thorburn
April 11, 2011 at 6:25 pmThere’s nothing to fear. The reports are saying that the new version tomorrow will be awesome for professionals. I’m looking forward to seeing the positive improvements to Final Cut!
We should see a newly written FCP with 64bit that takes advantage of multithreading, I’m sure the GUI will be different, but nothing should change with the way clips are edited and moved in the timeline.
Even if they introduce feature which you are not crazy about such as the ability to connect to an ipad, you don’t have to use them. They are, and have been, building on the foundation of FCP’s great timeline editing since the first version.
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Zane Barker
April 11, 2011 at 6:36 pm[Scott Sheriff] “in five years it won’t matter anyway because this type of work will be as common as knowing how to use a word processor. And will probably pay the same.”
You cannot be serious. Think about it a little, use your head.
Most people know how to use a word processor, does that make everybody a professional writer? Absolutely not. Does that mean that people no longer see the value of professional writers. Absolutely not.
As long as you can tell a story better vis your editing, I think you’ll be fine. FCP is just the tool you use to get things done. If I’m currently using an axe and someone else comes out with a chainsaw Im certainly going to start using the chainsaw, it doesn’t matter how long I’ve been using that axe.
**Hindsight is always 1080p**
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