what to get with 20K

[Caspian Brand]

Hi Bruce,

What codec do you intend to use for on-line?

We offer a mix of Fibre Channel and GbE connections to the same targets in our EVO storage server:

https://www.studionetworksolutions.com/products/product_detail.php?pi=12

I think we may have spoken a couple of years ago.

Regards,
-Caspian

Product Specialist
Studio Network Solutions

[Nathaniel Cooper]

Hey Bruce,

Better all depends on what the clients needs are. Spending $20k you can get anything from a NAS (like you have talked about) to an all fibre SAN with SANmp/MetaSAN type software.

Caspian mentioned SNS’s EVO storage, which is a solid platform and mixes gigE and Fibre and can get in at the $20k mark.

I’m happy to spec some of this out for you and talk about the advantages/disadvantages of each. Give me a call when you get a second.

Nate Cooper
nate.cooper@promax.com
949.375.2738

[Bob Zelin]

OH OH, I know the answer –
you have to CALL companies and ask them how much they charge for their products –

call these companies, and say “what can I get for 20 grand” –

EditShare
Facilis Terrablock
Apple (for XSAN)
Maxx Digital Final Share
Apace Systems
Small Tree Granite Stor
Studio Network Solutions
Cal Digit Super Share
AVID Unity ISIS 5000

Now, do what I say – call these companies, and say “I would like to get a shared storage system for 4 editors, and it must cost under 20 grand. What can you do for me”.

Please report back your results to this user forum.

Bob Zelin

[Bruce Little]

I will report what I find, but Bob, i’m curious what you would do with 20k for 4 editors?

[Bruce Little]

Hi Caspian, yes we have talked in the past, but recently have been chatting with Keith at SNS. I am a big fan of EVO, but I am curious what others are using these days.
As for codecs FCP and AVID for broadcast, so DNX – mostly 145/220 and PRORES, but of course some headroom would be nice for future possibilities.
cheers!
Bruce

[Steve Modica]

[Bruce Little] “I have put together an ethernet based SAN already for another post house that cost about
20k that works just fine, but wondering if there are any better solutions available for this price.”

Give us a call at Small Tree. We can do an awful lot for $20k. You need to tell us the codecs, storage space requirements and we can design something for you.

In general, with 3Gb SATA and Gb, our stuff runs $500-1000 per TB. I think that’s pretty good compared to most of the ethernet based vendors out there. Plus we know what all the sysctl parameters do since we worked with BSD unix kernels at SGI.

Steve Modica
CTO, Small Tree Communications

[Keith Mangles]

Hi Bruce, and Happy New Year!

I think this is a perfect opportunity to propose an EVO! It has absolutely everything you’re looking for included in the base kit, even price point. I’ll call you in a few.

Best regards,
Keith

[Bob Zelin]

Bruce writes –

I will report what I find, but Bob, i’m curious what you would do with 20k for 4 editors?

REPLY – well, all the vultures are coming out to pick at your bones, and I am a vulture too. My response told you to CALL ALL THE COMPANIES, but since I developed Final Share, I can tell you that for about 16 grand, you can have a 16 TB Shared storage system that TEN editors (more than 4 !) can use all at the same time, all with ProRes422HQ without issue.

These are the companies that are using Final Share right now –
https://www.bobzelin.com/clients-using-our-san

And I just installed a new one at TEK Productions in Orlando about 1 hour ago, so add one more to the list.

It will cost EVEN LESS than 16 grand if you want 8TB instead of 16TB of RAID 5 storage. Is this an appealing price to you ?

Bob Zelin

[John Gyldstrand]

Bruce,
I would do what Bob Z said and call everyone and see what they say. There are some great shared storage systems you can get for 20K depending on what your trying to accomplish. I would definitely like to chat with you, and let you know what we can do for you over here at Maxx Digital with our FinalShare product. I look forward to speaking with you.
Best,
John G

[Bruce Little]

Thanks everyone for chiming in!
I will give everyone one a call over the next few days. Hope everyone works weekends!!
and will post to the forum what I find out as well.
cheers!
Bruce