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[Mike Warmels] “I just wish I’d know how to include a pic in here and I could show you.”
I can kind of picture it… I was a post mixer for years before becoming an editor. it sounds like what you get when you directly import fcpxml into Logic. Works fine if all you have is stereo clips, but multichannel stuff ends up a horrific mess.
However, that’s not the case with X2Pro, it all comes across just as you’d expect… assuming you’ve set your Roles correctly on the multichannel clips, and actually set the preferences in X2Pro. If you just hit Export without checking whats getting included, I can imagine it could come out pretty screwy…
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Well, only that 15+ FCPX editors, a bunch of media managers and a couple of sound engineers have been trying to figure out how to get a clean timeline for months. Obviously it’s not so clear cut. These are not stupid people.
But maybe there are some particular things they fail to see, I dunno. What we do see is that a lot of tracks that are not actually used in the cuts do get transferred to the sound edit stations and that role name don’t always match with the content as they are in FCPX.
And it’s so nice, that you’re acting a little condescending. I don’t think I gave any cause for that. I know you love FCPX and everything. All I’m trying to get to is feel the same love for it. I don’t expect you to love AVID, even though I often hear people complain about AVID about things that can be done a lot simpler or faster than they make it out to be. Maybe it’s all about getting to know the intricacies of these NLE’s. And in case of FCPX, that’s why I am here: to learn, to understand why things are not working well (while it’s apparently all perfect with others) and what I can do to make it better. But to act like FCPX is God’s gift to mankind is overstating the value of this NLE. It has bugs, it’s not really finished and you need to learn a lot of workarounds.
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[Mike Warmels] “XD-Cam mostly. Or audio recorded separately on the audio mixer (up to eight tracks usually). Depending on the project. “
OK, so in that case, there is no such thing as left and right. The XDCAM and the separate recorder have multiple mono channels. So these can all be dialogue or they can be individual mics and you can assign roles accordingly.
If you just generically assign all 8 channels as Dialogue, then they will fall hierarchically wherever the free space is in the track sheet. That’s how you are getting a large separation between “left” and “right”. The exception should be if these are edited together and embedded into the video (not detached).
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[Mike Warmels] “And it’s so nice, that you’re acting a little condescending. I don’t think I gave any cause for that.”
Yeah, some people get a little crazy on these forums. Not everybody is so… strident. 😉 I’d be interested to see an fcpxml from something that’s getting screwed up. Because it shouldn’t end up as you describe.
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[Robin S. Kurz] “Because whilst trying so terribly hard to trip me up all the time,”
Why is it that you can never engage in a discussion without thinking it’s all about you? No one is trying to trip you up. We all seem to be helping Mike work through a problem. Or so I thought.
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Superb demo at fcpxchange btw Charlie. Very entertaining and concise. A couple of nice little things I hadn’t noticed before, such as the moving-multiple-clips-at-once thing. Always fun to know. 🙂
– RK
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Mike,
Is this on a shared storage system? If so, that could be the cause of your system’s performance issues. Before, in another thread, I believe, you said one machine and an attached Promise array, but a few posts up you mentioned 15 FCPX editors. So, I’m a bit confused.
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[Charlie Austin] “it sounds like what you get when you directly import fcpxml into Logic.”
Agreed. Just about the only time I have ever seen anything that looked even vaguely like what was described. But with X2Pro… never once. Not even amongst the hundreds of teenagers that I teach that had a mere five minute intro to the X2Pro workflow years ago. Unless maybe they only got the LE version that doesn’t allow for (nearly) any of the roles management.
I also don’t see what isn’t covered in here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ce2wgL5x1ww
that couldn’t provide supposed 15+ people more than enough information to figure out such a painfully simple app. Sorry for having a really hard time buying that. Oh well.
– RK
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[Robin S. Kurz] “Very entertaining and concise.”
Thanks… 🙂 Doing another one at NAB… no idea what I’l say, but I didn’t for this one either really. 🙂
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Nice video. But again, this isn’t really representative for the shows I do. It’s like 30 minutes with lot of different audio mike tracks, music, SFX etc etc. Now the source material for the dialogue is sometime between 4 and 8 tracks. Once you overlap audio to make a nice seamless cut, I’d imagine that would be at least 2x 8 tracks stacked.
In this video I can’t really see how you can switch off particular tracks from the clip in X2Prp. Someone told me that’s possible, but I can’t see it here. The editors do switch it off in Inspector, but apparently X2Pro still exports all 8 tracks. Now again: I haven’t done this myself, but this is how I imagine sound editors end up with an exuberant amount of audio tracks: stacks and stacks of 8 tracks of the source material. While often you end up using three or four if you’d be selecting them.
But I’ll look up some more extensive X2Pro tutorials, not the ones with very simple sequences. The problem is not that it’s not exporting, it’s that exporting way too much.
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