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  • What Kind of Hardware Is Good Enough?

    Posted by Kyle Macdonnell on August 6, 2010 at 3:10 pm

    Hello All!

    I am trying to get my independent producer thing going. I bought a new iMac i7 which I am returning because it is too slow. All my software & experience is with Mac OS.

    Question: What kind of hardware am I looking at to use AE & FCP in a timely, professional manner?

    Any advice will be appreciated.

    Martin Curtis replied 15 years, 9 months ago 6 Members · 12 Replies
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  • Walter Biscardi

    August 6, 2010 at 3:16 pm

    To slow for what? We’re cutting documentaries and episode television with iMacs here in our shop. My 27″ iMac screams through After Effects CS5.

    What are you trying to do? The iMac is actually a great editing workstation.

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
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  • Kyle Macdonnell

    August 6, 2010 at 3:30 pm

    It just took me 48 hours to convert 2 hours of HD to SD in AE CS4. It takes me 1 to 2 hours to convert 1 minute of AVCHD to apple ProRes… I’m having a hard time picturing screaming speeds on an iMac!

    Maybe my computer is defective; It’s no faster than my laptop & I just rebooted & my finder windows have question marks on the menu bars?!?

  • Walter Biscardi

    August 6, 2010 at 3:37 pm

    [Kyle MacDonnell] “It just took me 48 hours to convert 2 hours of HD to SD in AE CS4. It takes me 1 to 2 hours to convert 1 minute of AVCHD to apple ProRes… I’m having a hard time picturing screaming speeds on an iMac!”

    Oh, well for conversions, yeah, it’s going to be slower. I thought you meant just for editing and compositing. I do composites of 50 to 100 layers in AE and renders are no problem on the 27″

    If you need to convert HD to SD, then you want hardware like the AJA Kona LHi or Kona 3 and those require a Mac Pro. If you go that route, get the fastest Mac Pro you can afford, minimum 8GB RAM, ATI 4870 card.

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
    Editor, Colorist, Director, Writer, Consultant, Author, Chef.
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    Biscardi Creative Media

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  • John Fishback

    August 6, 2010 at 4:06 pm

    Walter’s advice is excellent. Another thing to look at whether using the iMac or MacPro is that Compressor and AfterFX are setup properly to use multiple cores.

    John

    MacPro 8-core 2.8GHz 8 GB RAM OS 10.5.8 QT7.6.4 Kona 3 Dual Cinema 23 ATI Radeon HD 3870, 24″ TV-Logic Monitor, ATTO ExpressSAS R380 RAID Adapter, PDE enclosure with 8-drive 6TB RAID 5
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  • Shane Ross

    August 6, 2010 at 5:07 pm

    Which AVCHD camera? The new SOny NXCam and FCP don’t work that well if the clips are longer than 10 min. I had the same issue…a 20 min clip took 3 hours.

    Shane

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  • Kyle Macdonnell

    August 6, 2010 at 5:50 pm

    I’m shooting with a T2i & I had some .mts files from a Canon HF 10 which I initially converted to QT in CS4 encoder. FCP didn’t like some of those files & crashed when I put them in the timeline. I wound up converting the .mts files to QT using iSkysoft. I eventually made single Pro Res movies out of each camera. They are about 100gb each, I’m thinking this was a mistake to make such big files. There are spots on my timeline that hang up for several minutes. I’m also having problems with sound partially disappearing from dvds that I’m outputting from FCP.

    I just noticed that apple isn’t listing my new i7 iMac for sale on their web site, only the i5 & i3!?!

  • John Fishback

    August 6, 2010 at 6:04 pm

    ClipWrap is another way to re-wrap mts files. They have a trail version. Maybe it’d help.

    John

    MacPro 8-core 2.8GHz 8 GB RAM OS 10.5.8 QT7.6.4 Kona 3 Dual Cinema 23 ATI Radeon HD 3870, 24″ TV-Logic Monitor, ATTO ExpressSAS R380 RAID Adapter, PDE enclosure with 8-drive 6TB RAID 5
    FCS 3 (FCP 7.0.2, Motion 4.0.2, Comp 3.5.2, DVDSP 4.2.2, Color 1.5.2)

    Pro Tools HD w SYNC IO & 192 Digital I/O, Yamaha DM1000, Millennia Media HV-3C, Neumann U87, Schoeps Mk41 mics, Genelec Monitors, PrimaLT ISDN

  • Kyle Macdonnell

    August 6, 2010 at 6:10 pm

    Not sure if I’ll be using .mts files again, but I need to figure out the whole transcoding thing!

  • Michael Sacci

    August 6, 2010 at 11:05 pm

    I’m converting T2i footage all the time, even on my 2nd gen MBP which is slower than new iMacs and it converts the H264 (they are not AVCHD) into prores in about 2-3x so a 5 min clip will take about 10-15 minutes.

    How are you converting the files.

  • Kyle Macdonnell

    August 6, 2010 at 11:21 pm

    I converted the camera files to pro res on my laptop, before I got the i7 iMac, now that I think about it.
    On the i7 iMac, I’ve had sluggish editing, rendering & burning of DVDs on both HD & SD. I converted HD to SD using CS4 Media converter. So far everything seems to take about the same amount of time that it takes on the laptop, but the laptop is much better for viewing streaming video online…

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