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What is the best way to go from “30F” to 24?
Posted by Alexander Gao on February 6, 2006 at 11:47 pmHello,
I’ve just got a new GL2 and shot some footage in 30 Frame mode. NOW… How do I get this to look like a smooth 24 frame per second, without losing any quality, and doing it right in fcp? Is it able to be done? (I hope it doesn’t require plugins, but if so, sobeit.Thanks a lot.
Alexander Gao
“When the revolution happens, I’ll be leading it.”
Graeme Nattress replied 20 years, 3 months ago 5 Members · 11 Replies -
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Mark Maness
February 6, 2006 at 11:52 pmCheck out the Nattress Film Effects 2.5 – https://www.nattress.com/filmEffects.htm
I love them and they are much much better than FCP Deinterlace plugin. By the way, the look you are looking for is called deinterlaced video and FCP does a great job of this. The Nattress plugins do the best job in the fastest amount of time.
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Jeff Carpenter
February 6, 2006 at 11:56 pmYou may want to e-mail Graeme himself (in the ‘contact’ page on the page Wayne linked to) and ask him just to be sure. I’m not sure what the implications of using this 30-frame mode instead of normal interlaced video is, but if anyone knows, he will.
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Mark Maness
February 7, 2006 at 12:10 amUsing Graham’s plugins are perfect for this. We’ve been editing shows this way for the past two years. You just have to make sure that you set the plugins to 30p instead of 24p. Last year, we used Canon XL1S cameras using the frame mode. Video looks great for the budget. Recently, we’ve upgraded to Sony’s XDCAM and HDV using a similar process.
Graham’s plugins will give you all of the color option that you’ll need and corrections to smooth the video out for broadcast. Take it from a loyal user and fellow frame mode shooter and editor.
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Alexander Gao
February 7, 2006 at 12:10 ambut isn’t canon’s frame mode pretty much already deinterlaced (progressive). I just want to know, now that i have progressive footage, how do I get it to conform to the stunning 24P rather than 30P? Is there any way? Thanks for all of your help.
Alexander Gao
“When the revolution happens, I’ll be leading it.”
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Graeme Nattress
February 7, 2006 at 12:11 am30p looks like 30p. If you want 24p and don’t have a 24p option on the camera, shooting 60i will give much better conversion to 24p than 30p.
So, if you want 30p shoot it, if you want 24p, shoot 60i normal NTSC and convert.
Graeme
– http://www.nattress.com – Film Effects and Standards Conversion for FCP
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Bret Williams
February 7, 2006 at 12:42 amSince you shot 30p, you’re going to have to remove frames to get to 24p. If I remember correctly, the Canon still shoots at 1/60 a second shutter in Frame mode. So you have 30 very crisp images. When you shoot 24 fps, you want a slower shutter speed to get the motion blur. Shooting at normal 30i would give you 60 images per second at the same shutter speed, so would actually give the plugins more info to blend together to create the motion blur.
Something like that. Graeme?
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Graeme Nattress
February 7, 2006 at 12:58 amYes, 60i gives much more temporal information to the plugin to create a better looking 24p.
Graeme
– http://www.nattress.com – Film Effects and Standards Conversion for FCP
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Alexander Gao
February 7, 2006 at 1:00 amI know that interlaced video loses some of the total resolution per frame that 30P offers. However, if I convert 60i, say, using your plugin for example Graeme, would the resulting 24p frame look as good as a 30P frame?
Alexander Gao
“When the revolution happens, I’ll be leading it.”
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Graeme Nattress
February 7, 2006 at 1:08 am30p on your camera is probably very similar in resolution to 60i, perhaps lower. It’s not true progressive, and the filter that reduces the resolution of interlaced video is most probably still present in 30p mode.
So, 24p from a conversion filter should be very close in quality to what you’d expect from 30p, if you shoot 60i. Converting from your 30f will not produce best results – but the proof is in the pudding – best try the demo and see how you get on.
Graeme
– http://www.nattress.com – Film Effects and Standards Conversion for FCP
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Alexander Gao
February 7, 2006 at 1:50 amis a computer monitor accurate to judge the results or not?
Alexander Gao
“When the revolution happens, I’ll be leading it.”
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