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  • Russ Froze

    November 14, 2014 at 4:49 pm

    Hello Scott Francis,
    As we went through the codec debates I deemed the codec issue to be superfluous. The question was ” What is the best external recorder to use with a Z1-U”. Any suggestions would be welcome for I too would love to find a way to extend the service life of my cameras.
    Russ Froze

  • Scott Francis

    November 15, 2014 at 2:53 am

    The issue for the Z1-U is, to my knowledge that it does NOT have an HDMI out, however it DOES have component via the special Sony D connector (if it is at all like my old FX1’s). The Atomos Ninja series I believe only have HDMI in (or SDI), however you could use a component to HDMI converter before it, which Blackmagic and others make as well. When all is said and done, you are getting around a $600 to a grand before you even get into HD’s for the Ninja 2 or CF cards for the Ninja Star. In my experience the FX1/Z1-U’s do look better on component out vs the HDV format (I use FX1s for live IMAG shoots at our church and also at events in the past) and I have also edit the same footage from HDV afterwards and from the sensor looks SO much better. I can’t tell you what colorspace comes from the sensor, but pretty sure it is still 4:2:0 but image is still better than HDV.

    I now use Canon G30’s (as I don’t need XLR inputs because I record audio separately, but often shoot up to 5 cameras at events) and DSLR’s and the footage I get is SO much better than on the older HDV equipment. We still use 3 FX1’s for out broadcast (so just for the sensor image)and they look good, but honestly are getting a little long in the tooth.

    I would recommend the Atomos Ninja series recorders, and I am using non-SSD hard drives with mine as I am not moving when I use them…however, if you are running and gunning SSD drives are recommended. Atomos has recommend drives listed on their site and I also use there HDMI to SDI converters and love them.

    Good luck!

    Xavier (Scott) Francis
    Mind’s Eye Audio/Video Productions

  • John Rofrano

    November 15, 2014 at 11:55 am

    Yea, I usually shoot long running performances so I only have a couple of clips of whatever I’m editing. I do beleive it’s the number of smaller clips that makes things bog down.

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

  • Don Hutcheson

    November 18, 2014 at 5:39 pm

    You are correct, Scott. What killed my interest was discovering that the outboard recorders need HDMI and the Z1-U only has component and Firewire out. By the time I bought converters, etc, I could buy another GH3 and have memory card capability built in (GH3s are now down from $1199 to $799 since the GH4 is out). This whole thing got started when I got hold of a bad tape on an interview and the color fades ands comes back in a maddening 3-second cycle all the way through. That will be a lot of color-correcting on a 50 minute interview!

    Hutch

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