What is best setting for SD video to ne projected in large hall (from ProRes master)?

[Adrian Smith]

I was not being deliberately rude – my attitude was born out of frustration that you would not answer the question asked. You insisted on flying off at an irrelevant tangent (which is frustrating when you know the answer does not lie in that direction).

I found the answer from another FCP user group (the one on Apple) where many people deal with the same situation. I found this after I had posted on Creative Cow (and the subsequent flight over the moon).

Why could you not just provide the information asked for – or if you didn’t know (and there’s no reason why you should) not chime in at all.

I do appreciate you are trying to help but wrong information ain’t the way to go.

Don’t mean to be rude – just frustrated.

A

[Greg Ball]

There you go again… now you’re saying “you” in answering my comment. Did i offer a solution? NO!!!!
So why are you blaming me? Everyone here was trying to help you. That’s what these forums are all about.
If you don’t like these forums I suggest that you hire someone to help you.

[Adrian Smith]

Well, duh, I wouldn’t be blaming you if you didn’t chime in. And if you didn’t have a solution then why in the name of all that is holy engage?

I am grateful though as, good grief, a chap on the horns of deadline needs a good punching bag!

Anyway, now that we have all calmed down – you must appreciate that many of us are on tight deadlines when we reach out for a solution and it gets horribly frustrating when one doesn’t get a direct answer or someone attempts to give you s sermon about something quite unconnected (pardon the pun – see thread).

I know many people are trying to help but sometimes the best way to help is not to engage if you don’t have an answer or a resource. Particularly if the question relates to something that is not your area of expertise (as this subject evidently wasn’t).

As it turned out I got the right information from the exactly the same question from he Apple forum without all the hand wringing and “you can’t get there from here” scenarios.

Can we all get on with our lives again now – pretty please?

Sigh

Onwards.

[David Roth weiss]

[Greg Ball] “Everyone here was trying to help you. That’s what these forums are all about.
If you don’t like these forums I suggest that you hire someone to help you.”

Thanks for your support Greg. We’ll just have to forgive this guy’s rudeness, because, unlike you, Steve, and myself, and every single other person in the industry, this guy is on a tight deadline. 🙂

Plus, he clearly has no idea what we we’re trying to tell him anyway. He’ll crash and burn all on his own and it’ll hopefully be a good learning experience for him.

David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor/Colorist
David Weiss Productions, Inc.
Los Angeles
https://www.drwfilms.com

Don’t miss my new Creative Cow Podcast: Producing Episodic TV with “24” Producer Michael Klick:
https://library.creativecow.net/weiss_roth_david/Podcast-Series-1_Michael-Klick/1

POST-PRODUCTION WITHOUT THE USUAL INSANITY ™

Creative COW contributing editor and a forum host of the Business & Marketing and Apple Final Cut Pro forums.

[Greg Ball]

no problem David. The guy is an editor?! I’d love to be a fly on the wall in an edit suite, where he deals with a difficult client. FWIW you handled him well. Kudos to you.

[Adrian Smith]

Darlings… can well all just stop now before we all crash and burn (far too much money to be made for us to be doing that).

So after three… read 1, 2, 3 STOP

Peace ‘n’ love y’all!

[David Roth weiss]

Thank you Greg! I was just trying to help him, but you can only lead a horse to water…

BTW, in reference to your other post, I too have found it’s virtually impossible to create a good looking WMV any more from FCS. I’ve raised the bitrate to extraordinary levels at times (8000 mbps) and still gotten ugly video. I suspect it’s a Flip4mac thing. Many have suggested using Sorenson Squeeze, but I haven’t found that my needs justifiy that expense.

David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor/Colorist
David Weiss Productions, Inc.
Los Angeles
https://www.drwfilms.com

Don’t miss my new Creative Cow Podcast: Producing Episodic TV with “24” Producer Michael Klick:
https://library.creativecow.net/weiss_roth_david/Podcast-Series-1_Michael-Klick/1

POST-PRODUCTION WITHOUT THE USUAL INSANITY ™

Creative COW contributing editor and a forum host of the Business & Marketing and Apple Final Cut Pro forums.

[Greg Ball]

I’ve tried sorenson squeeze. Not much better. I’m just tryng to get a 4 minute video down to less that 100MB.
The larger version is about 280 mbs.

[Adrian Smith]

Yes I’ve thought about Sorenson Squeeze (not sure I have a current copy though).

From what I’ve gathered so far the best way to go is H.264 at a bit rate of around 8000. Using Compressor from a ProRes source.

I’m told setting the the frame size is not so important as long as it is set for some equation of 16:9 (the projector will zoom and focus the image according to screen size, etc.)

There is an app on the market called PlaybackPro which is created just for the playback projection of standard video files It’s about $399. The AV people I am working with recommend it for playback from laptops.

PlayBackPro
https://dtvideolabs.com/PlaybackPro.html

I also got these video file specs from the AV company )H.264, ProRes, etc.):

Video Specs
https://www.avconcepts.com/resources/video-playback

My files are looking good and doing a test projection at end of week.

Hope this helps and I’d be interested to hear about the results you get from Sorenson.

Best –

A.S

[Adrian Smith]

And this just in from another editor. This sounds very good and I will experiment with this too. Interesting that a lower bit rate is suggested:

Create a FCP timeline at the correct frame rate (23.98), with square pixels in H.264 format and “Custom” size of 1024×768.
Drop your beautiful HD timeline onto this timeline (respond “bugger off” if FCP asks you about some size rubbish)
FCP will letterbox it for you
Simply send your 1024×768 timeline to Compressor
Choose “Native compressor size” (the default). In the “Video” tab, choose H.264 and limit the data rate to about 3,000.
Audio is whatever it defaults to.
When you say the appropriate b’rucha and wait about five minutes…or maybe 13 hours…the result will be a quicktime file.
Simply load it into Quicktime player (any recent quicktime version) and make it full-screen.
If the Mac is plugged into an XGA projector, make sure the Mac senses the screen resolution and switches to that size.