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What HD Monitor to buy?
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[Michael Belanger] “How will you make your sony monitors work for you in HD work..”
the PVM series is multi-format SD/HD and really is
the ideal crt monitor for most post houses at the moment.It really does not matter that they are only 800+ lines, they auto switch between SD/HD and can be trusted 100% for contrast and color judgement.
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[Michael Belanger] “Yes… saw the TV logic as well. Once you add the glass in front it does shoot up in price.”
The $8,000 I quoted includes the glass ND filter. it’s $6500 without the glass, but quite honestly you should not buy it that way. it’s much better and perfectly replicates the CRT with the glass on.
[Michael Belanger] “Can’t recall if it included the scope or not but the one I saw with scope…well the scope simply wasn’t as accurate as the one from Cine tal but of course the price isn’t the same either.”
Nope, it only includes audio monitors, but quite honestly, I don’t want a scope on my primary grade monitor. I want it separate from that monitor.
[Michael Belanger] “The sony PVM monitors native 16×9 are quite nice but as you know are very expensive (if that is the one you are referring to) The CRT will have better color from my experience and very good off axis support. These are hard to find and really only have 1k or so lines of resolution whereas the LCD and Plasmas do have full resolution.”
At the time, the Sony PVM was only about $3,500 which is quite cheap. Now, they are going for a premium since they are no longer manufactured. Off axis, nothing beats the CRT. Off axis, the TV Logic has been the best I’ve seen for LCD. I can’t remember the viewing angle, but it was rather large with that display, especially compared with the Panasonic 1700W we had in at the same time.
[Michael Belanger] “So I assume you are not a big fan of the JVC or its counterpart at Ikegami?”
JVC has never appealed to me as they just always cut corners to save money. In the long run, that never works out. My belief is save money where you can, but spend money where you have to. High quality monitoring is one place to spend the money.
My VAR was going to bring the JVC out here for me to test next to our Sony CRT but when he took it out of the box, he said to never mind. It was nowhere near the quality that he expected. So I have not seen one in person yet to say definitively that I like or dislike that particular display.
But in general I avoid JVC so I would not even bring that unit in here for testing when we’re ready to replace both our Sonys, probably the end of this year or early 2009.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
Biscardi Creative Media
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I really like the TVLogic monitors and the eCinema Pro monitor. They both looked quite good, but are certainly pricey.
My CRT monitor is one of the very few PVM series that accepted an HD signal. I found two fo them them used a couple of years ago and paid about $4500 for the pair. It was a great find!
-Russ
Russell Lasson
Kaleidoscope Pictures
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Great find is putting it midly… So could I modify my current PVM 20M4Us into an HD/SD SDI input monitor???
Mike B
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[Chris Borjis] “agreeing with you 100%
I only color correct on the PVM crt I have.
The panasonic plasma is nice to look at but nowhere near accurate for proper picture correction of a show.”
If you have a CRT to calibrate it against, it can be VERY accurate. But you can’t just have the Panny and turn it on. You need a properly calibrated pro monitor to compare it against and with about 20 minutes, you can have the Panny Pro Plasma very very close to the CRT.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
Biscardi Creative Media
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[Michael Belanger] “o could I modify my current PVM 20M4Us into an HD/SD SDI input monitor???”
look in the manual for the monitor and check the
option cards list.if one of them is HD your golden. A lot of them have that capability, but require an add on card to get HD.
I own one of the few BVM series that has higher resolution (900+ lines) but has absolutely no path to HD. Its like the best SD CRT you could get at the time. What a waste that was. (my predecessor made the decision to buy it)
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TVLogic’s monitors are great LCDs, eCinema amazing. That JVC that Russell mentioned at NAB I stared at for the better part of two days on the show floor in the AJA booth. The first day was so busy, I didn’t even notice it was a JVC as I thought it was something a bit more ‘special’ or less popular and more expensive. The second day during a bit of a lull I noticed it was a JVC. I have to say, I was mightily impressed with the JVC. I was showing all kinds of ioHD functionality at NAB and that of course included down converting. Even down converted SD looked pretty nice on this monitor. Now, I didn’t get a chance to play with it as much as I would liked to, but as a very general first impression, I think the JVC is a contender, especially factoring in the price.
Jeremy
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The only Sony PVM monitors that will display HD are the PVM-14L5 and the PVM-20L5 series. These monitors replaced the “M” series you have. Wish I realized it at the time they displayed analog HD out of the box. I thought you needed the $4000.00 card to get HD out of it till Walter enlightened me on these boards. (of coarse by this time they’d been discontinued by Sony) 🙁
“everything is broken” ……Bob Dylan
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[walter biscardi] “JVC has never appealed to me as they just always cut corners to save money. In the long run, that never works out. My belief is save money where you can, but spend money where you have to. High quality monitoring is one place to spend the money.
My VAR was going to bring the JVC out here for me to test next to our Sony CRT but when he took it out of the box, he said to never mind. It was nowhere near the quality that he expected. So I have not seen one in person yet to say definitively that I like or dislike that particular display.
But in general I avoid JVC so I would not even bring that unit in here for testing when we’re ready to replace both our Sonys, probably the end of this year or early 2009.”
It’s a shame to hear you say that again, Walter. Whilst the off-axis comments are fair, the JVC is a very well made, excellent quality product at an exceptional price. I suggest you get your VAR to reconsider his margins and show it to you. He is the only person I have ever heard make negative comments like this about it .
Ben
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[Ben Holmes] “I suggest you get your VAR to reconsider his margins and show it to you. He is the only person I have ever heard make negative comments like this about it .”
Actually his margins for the JVC are higher than the Panasonics he typically sells so that was not a deciding factor. Heck I’m sure he would rather sell me the $8,000 TV Logic than the JVC anyway, he was just curious what I thought about it.
Good to hear other folks like them, but again, I’m not a fan of that company overall.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
Biscardi Creative Media
HD and SD Production for Broadcast and Independent Productions.STOP STARING AND START GRADING WITH APPLE COLOR Apple Color Training DVD available now!
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