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Samuel Frazier
April 24, 2006 at 9:24 pmI could be wrong, but I thought I read somewhere today about a FCP presentation mentioning 24p support for the JVC HD100. That’s been coming for a while, so I guess it wouldn’t really be big news anyway. It was probably in the HD100 forum at DVinfo. But, it was a second hand report, not an official release.
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Devin Crane
April 25, 2006 at 12:57 amHellow… was anybody listening? They announced with 5.1 they would be supporting HD XDcam and without the help of Telestream. Sony now supports SD Xdcam and HD Xdcam on Mac OSX free. You will also be able to export to XDcam.
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George Loch
April 25, 2006 at 1:03 amIt really depends on your workflow and content. I find native HDV to be cumbersome, tasking the workstation by an inordinate amount. moving away from HDV into another codec takes more of the burden off of the CPU and places it on the something like the decklink or the Kona. It also enables you to work in a better colorspace.
If you are not doing a lot of finessing of your show then sure, hdv will work just fine. If you are doing a lot of processing then you are losing valuable cpu cycles and color ops by keeping it native.
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Walter Biscardi
April 25, 2006 at 5:28 am[Borjis] “From my experience thats not true at all.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with capturing/editing in HDV then doing the final output nested in an uncompressed 10-bit timeline before going back to HDCam or mpeg2 transport stream for blu-ray or hd-dvd.”
actually the way I’ve been advocating the HDV workflow, and it has worked very well for folks using it, is to come out Component from an HDV deck into the Kona LH / LHe / 2 / 3 and capture to the DVCPro HD codec. Edit your entire project using this codec. Then simply edit directly to HDCAM or DVCPro HD from that timeline. No need to nest into an uncompressed timeline before lay off to tape and you get tremendous speed advantages using the DVCPro HD workflow over the HDV workflow in terms of realtime performance of your editing system.
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Chris Borjis
April 25, 2006 at 6:03 amI have a quad G5 so there’s plenty of cpu cycles (and then some lol) when working with HDV.
The first time I edited in HDV I was blown away how well the machine handled it.I have the decklink multibridge extreme and find capturing via component a more time consuming
process at my facility. Does DVCPRO-HD support full resolutions? I was under the impression
it didn’t (1280×720 is 960×720 etc….would rather not be doing that)as far as better than 8-bit color correction, does the color corrector not support the
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George Loch
April 25, 2006 at 6:13 am[Borjis] “I have a quad G5 so there’s plenty of cpu cycles (and then some lol) when working with HDV.
The first time I edited in HDV I was blown away how well the machine handled it.”Just think what it could do with less overhead 🙂
[Borjis] “I have the decklink multibridge extreme and find capturing via component a more time consuming
process at my facility. Does DVCPRO-HD support full resolutions? I was under the impression
it didn’t (1280×720 is 960×720 etc….would rather not be doing that)”Workflow and delivery is of course the important factors so, if you are not bumping up to another format then hdv may be a good option. I still prefer the flexability of a codec that can easily move to and from any QT-savvy app – Mac or PC.
[Borjis] “as far as better than 8-bit color correction, does the color corrector not support the
32-bit float precision processing? That would be more than adequate.”It’s not bit depth, it’s color space.
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Jan Franzén
April 25, 2006 at 10:19 amWher have you heard that? Is there any further information to get how and where to upgrade from FCP 5.04?
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Tom Wolsky
April 25, 2006 at 11:43 amApple is showing all three of those cameras working at 24p with FCP. It’s not in 5.1, but it’s probably not far away.
All the best,
Tom
Author: “Final Cut Pro 5 Editing Essentials” and “Final Cut Express 2 Editing Workshop” Class on Demand “Complete Training for FCP5” DVD
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Devin Crane
April 25, 2006 at 1:52 pmHave you seen the Updated FCP webpage “Edit Anything”? An Apple rep is demoing the Software at Sony’s booth. I’ve looked for the download on Sony’s site, I think they are waiting for 5.1 to be released.
Apple also said yesterday that they will be adding a FXplugin that will run off of Core Video like Motion. They said that it would be released at a later time though.
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Chris Borjis
April 25, 2006 at 4:01 pm[George Loch] “It’s not bit depth, it’s color space.”
Can you be more specific?
The quality options buried in FCP have options for 8-bit, 10-bit and 32-bit precision YUV as far as rendering is concerned.
When color correction is applied to a clip its rendered isn’t it?
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