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  • Craig Seeman

    July 19, 2011 at 4:58 pm

    I remember thinking FCP’s Viewer/Canvas was strange after 12 years on Avid. It was even more confusing when learning how I had to double click clips in the timeline and see clips with three dots under them in the Viewer to do additional stuff to.

  • Matt Callac

    July 19, 2011 at 6:25 pm

    [Herb Sevush]
    The magnetic timeline – perfect for fixing things that was never a problem in the first place. Like “clip collisions” — oohhhh now there’s a scary term. But what is it really. Why would I EVER want to slide a clip into the same location as another clip without either rippling it or overwriting it?”

    I don’t necessarily disagree with you about this, but maybe the reason we’d never want to do this type of operation is because it wasn’t possible before.

    -mattyc

  • Craig Seeman

    July 19, 2011 at 6:37 pm

    And while previously you HAD to ripple or overwrite you now have the ADDITIONAL option to move first, play down the section and decide wither to ripple or transition. It would seem FCPX provides you with more choices, not less.

  • Craig Seeman

    July 19, 2011 at 6:40 pm

    [Herb Sevush] “I do this all the time without hesitation in FCP7 and improving it never made the top 100 of my yearly “wish list.” I bet if we did a search on the FCP forum it never made it to anybodies wish list becasue it was NEVER A PROBLEM.”

    And now it’s easier since you don’t need to select anything. It follows the clip it’s connected to. And you can even change the connection points to other underlying clips. This allows for very complex vertical stack movements.

    Every single thing that makes editing faster or adds another option to handle something is a step forward for a faster edit.

    I mean why would I ever use an automatic shift in a car when the stick shift works just fine? After all I know how to switch gears.

  • Chris Conlee

    July 19, 2011 at 6:57 pm

    [Craig Seeman] “I mean why would I ever use an automatic shift in a car when the stick shift works just fine? After all I know how to switch gears.”

    Having said that, there are lots of reasons, including the fact that you simply WANT to, that one might still purchase a car with a manual stick. I might be wrong, but don’t think you can purchase a high performance Ferrari with an automatic transmission.

    Chris

  • Herb Sevush

    July 19, 2011 at 6:58 pm

    “I mean why would I ever use an automatic shift in a car when the stick shift works just fine? After all I know how to switch gears.”

    Craig, your talking to a person who always buys a manual. the automatic shift is a perfect analogy for FCPX, it costs more to buy, more to fix, gives you less performance, but makes it easier for novice drivers.

    “Every single thing that makes editing faster or adds another option to handle something is a step forward for a faster edit.”

    This is a TRIVIAL improvement, the cost of which are significant losses, like a source viewer and fixed audio tracks. A tiny step forward against some huge steps backward.

    “And now it’s easier since you don’t need to select anything.”

    You mean you didn’t have to select anything when you created the compound clip in the first place, it just read your mind?

    “This allows for very complex vertical stack movements.”

    Describe one I can’t do easily in FCP7.

    Herb Sevush
    Zebra Productions

  • Herb Sevush

    July 19, 2011 at 7:02 pm

    “It would seem FCPX provides you with more choices, not less.”

    No, it just allows you to change the time when you make the choice. In FCP7 you have to think, then act. IN FCPX you have the option to Act, then think, then act. Wow, a major improvement.

    A new slogan – “FCPX – you don’t have to think first anymore.”

    Herb Sevush
    Zebra Productions

  • Craig Seeman

    July 19, 2011 at 7:05 pm

    [Chris Conlee] “Having said that, there are lots of reasons, including the fact that you simply WANT to, that one might still purchase a car with a manual stick. I might be wrong, but don’t think you can purchase a high performance Ferrari with an automatic transmission. “

    Admittedly maybe FCPX is not that Ferrari. Maybe Apple wants to be Toyota.

    The question many of us have is whether Apple will give us access to what’s under the hood. One example is how closed FCPX is yet how it seems there are elements that would point to it being a good server seat NLE. The challenge is whether the pointing ever leads to a road traveled.

  • Craig Seeman

    July 19, 2011 at 7:13 pm

    [Herb Sevush] “Craig, your talking to a person who always buys a manual. the automatic shift is a perfect analogy for FCPX, it costs more to buy, more to fix, gives you less performance, but makes it easier for novice drivers.”

    That’s probably true. I think Apple wants to start from that point. I’m not sure that’s where it’ll end up. I do think there objective is that they will open up the power at some point but, as alluded to in another post, they are starting with a Toyota, not a Ferrari . . . or as I mentioned in another post, they have a great engine with a go-cart chassis. I don’t think they’re going to let that engine go to waste based on their past history.

    [Herb Sevush] “This is a TRIVIAL improvement, the cost of which are significant losses, like a source viewer and fixed audio tracks. A tiny step forward against some huge steps backward.”

    Audio wil be through metadata for export. They’ve already stated that. I’m not finding the loss of a dedicated viewer much of a loss but they need to improve the two-up so it’s available for all the times in vs out comparisons are needed.

    [Herb Sevush] “Describe one I can’t do easily in FCP7.”

    In nearly every case it’s easier in FCPX so I don’t have to worry about the selection at all. If a clip overlaps two clips below it I can connect it to either and the entire stack above it can follow. It all depends on how much you pile on vertically but no there’s no reason to feel a complex stack will get unwieldy.

  • Craig Seeman

    July 19, 2011 at 7:16 pm

    [Herb Sevush] “A new slogan – “FCPX – you don’t have to think first anymore.””

    Great proof that FCPX is more flexible. Think in the order you like, not dictated by the NLE.

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