What do you use to burn Blu-ray?

[John Rofrano]

[Jerry Hart] “Can you explain what an ISO file is and how it’s created. Do you render it in VP or DVDA?”

Jerry, ISO files are disc images. They can be CD’s, DVD’s or Blu-ray’s. Lots of programs can create them and burn them. Some programs like Virtual Clone Drive can even mount then on your computer as if they were a real disc. It’s a nice way of putting the entire contents of an optical disc in a single file for archive.

DVD Architect can create ISO files for you with Make Disc | Burn menu as will Vegas Pro from the Tools | Burn Disc | Blu-ray Disc… menu option when you select ISO Image Writer as the Device:

The nice thing about them is you can burn your ISO file with another program. I have a Primera Bravo II disc publisher which allows me to place up to 25 blank DVD’s in a tray and have them automatically burned and printed without any intervention from me.

~jr

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[John Rofrano]

[Ken Bennett] “Well something is wrong with Sony’s DVDA when it comes to BD burning. All the BD’s I ran today will not play on any Blu-ray player I have. It “Can’t play disk”.”

How fast are you burning them? If you have a 4x or 6x burner you might try burning at a slower 2x speed. I remember having this problem with DVD’s.

~jr

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[John Rofrano]

[Nigel O'Neill] “I use DVDA to author and Nero to burn”

I don’t mean to change the topic of this thread but I don’t want Ken to go out and buy Nero thinking it’s a solution.

I would NEVER install Nero on a video editing workstation of mine! It totally messed up my ability to process AVI files because it inserted it’s own DirectX filters that don’t work properly into my AVI chain. Of course, if you don’t use AVI’s you might not care but back then I was still working with DV and Nero caused Boris RED to stop being able to read any AVI files. I uninstalled Nero and everything started working again. I tried to just install Nero Burning ROM with no other options and it still messed with my DirectX filter chain. That’s when I labeled it “malware” for installing things I didn’t want and removed it from all of my computers.

Just be aware that Nero messes with your video processing/codecs whether you want it to or not. I would not recommend Nero to anyone who edits video.

~jr

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[John Rofrano]

[Ken Bennett] “I just tested these Taiyo Yuden Blu-Ray, BD-R, 25GB, 6X disks on the BD burner they were just burned on in the computer and they play fine. But will not play on standard Blu-ray players.”

Try burning them at 2x and see if that helps.

~jr

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[John Rofrano]

[Ken Bennett] “I just download IMGburn and still the BD’s will only play on the computer. Will not play on any Blu-ray player.”

I use BurnAware Free (not to make you download yet another program). I was using IMGburn but it has too many confusing options about disc types that it expects you to know and if you get it wrong your discs are worthless. It’s a great program for techno-geeks but not for the “common man”.

I don’t think the burning program is your problem though.

Does your Blu-ray player have the latest firmware?

Yes, Blu-ray players (like the rest of HD with it’s multiple non-standard formats) are a MESS!!! Unlike DVD’s which have been the same since the first day they were invented, Blu-ray continues to evolve and the Blu-ray consortium expects that your Blu-ray player is connected to the Internet and you update it regularly like you do with your PC! So I would check and see if your Blu-ray manufacturer has issued any firmware updates for your Blu-ray player and if they have I would download them and apply them. Usually you can burn them to a disc that the Blu-ray player will see as an update and apply it.

I’m speaking from experience. At some point a while ago the Blu-ray’s I created with DVD Architect stopped working and I updated my Blu-ray players firmware and they started working again so keep those players updated. Oh, and tell your customers to keep theirs updated too.

~jr

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[Nigel O’neill]

[John Rofrano] “I would NEVER install Nero on a video editing workstation of mine! It totally messed up my ability to process AVI files because it inserted it’s own DirectX filters that don’t work properly into my AVI chain. “

John, I don’t edit AVI, so you have a point, however I am still on Nero 9 as I saw no need to upgrade even though I was entitled to. Perhaps that those issues started to creep in with later versions of Nero.

My system specs: Intel i7 970, 12GB RAM, ASUS P6T, Vegas Pro 12 (x64), Windows 7 x64 Ultimate, Vegas Production Assistant 1.0, VASST Ultimate S Pro 4.1, Neat Video Pro 2.6

[Ken Bennett]

After reading all of your posts on this, it appears that the media used may be the issue. The media in question is, JVC Taiyo Yuden Blu-Ray BD-R 25GB LTH type 6X White Inkjet Hub Printable. The key being the “LTH” (Low To High). Checking the Sony player specs, this media is NOT compatible. I’m guessing the same with my Oppo (which so far has played anything I’ve given it). My test disks, Memorex BD-RE 2X, play fine on both BD players I have.

As to burning at a slower speed, I tried burning at 2X and that disk would not even play in the burner it was burned on.

Both my Blu-ray players are due for firmware updates, though I’ve never had a playback problem due to this until now. Weather that makes a difference or not, I think using these Taiyo Yuden’s is NOT the media to go with for BD delivery.

So what brand of Blu-ray disk are you using and delivering to your client with no playback complaints?

I’m looking at Verbatim DataLifePlus BD-R 25GB 6X White Inkjet Hub Printable. Give me some warm fuzzy feeling on this choice.

Thanks all.

Ken Bennett
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[Nigel O’neill]

[Ken Bennett] “though I’ve never had a playback problem due to this until now”

Generally speaking, commercially pressed BD’s will play without issue. It’s the one’s we burn ourselves that cause problems. My Sony BD player at one would not play BD-R’s, but had no issues with BD-RE. A firmware update fixed that. Of course, you can find a happy medium, burn BD discs and give it to your client who has a different BD player or has not flashed their firmware.

[Ken Bennett] “So what brand of Blu-ray disk are you using “

For ink-jet printable, Shintaro, because I have zero choice for ink-jet printable where I live. If I don’t need to print, Verbatim or TDK’s do fine. Note, I cannot get Verbatim printables 🙁

[Steve Rhoden]

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[Carl Alessi]

For the longest time, I was never able to burn a dual layer +R DVD using Architect 5.0 without generating a coaster. So I would author the disk using Architect, then burn it using ImgBurn, which always worked like a charm.

I haven’t tried burning a dual layer DVD since acquiring Architect 6, for fear that I would be wasting more valuable dual layer blanks. Has anyone had a similar experience with Architect 5, but found that dual layers burn fine using 6?

Carl