What do you think of this future?

[Shawn Miller]

[Ricardo Marty] “Adobe just presented this? a great tool in the right hands

https://nofilmschool.com/2016/11/adobe-project-voco

Ricardo Marty”

That is just amazing… kind of scary, but completely amazing.

Shawn

[Jeremy Garchow]

Where does reality stop, and virtual reality begin?

This is really scary if used by the wrong people for the wrong things.

In a production environment, this has the potential to wipe away large swaths of industry, while adding capability to the increasing constraints of production and subserving collaboration to less and less entities.

I guess we should settle for a universal income so we have “more leisure time” to “do greater things”.

My mind’s not in the right place for this, today. 😐

[Tom Sefton]

I’ll be honest, given the date I didn’t think this thread was going to be about adobe!

Co-owner at Pollen Studio
http://www.pollenstudio.co.uk

[Bob Zelin]

Universal Income, Jeremy?

Do you know why this won’t work? Because editor X will own a new Thunderbolt 3 Mac, or HP Z840 loaded up with GPU cards, and editor Y will say “I am still working on my old iMac – it’s all supposed to be fair with universal income – I deserve a Thunderbolt 3 Mac as well”. So what he will do is secretly work on the side, at 2AM, with YOUR clients, because he wants not only a thunderbolt 3 Mac, just like you have, but he wants a 34″ 8K monitor (mainly because you don’t have one). And he will charge almost nothing for this – but then, he gets better equipment then you do. And then you say “WAIT JUST A MINUTE – how come he has a 34″ 8K monitor, and I have this crappy 5K monitor”. So you start to work (if you are so inspired) extra hours secretly, so that you can not only have the Thunderbolt 3 montior, and the 8K monitor, but you want one of those 3800 MB/sec RAID arrays, which HE doesn’t have.

Etc, etc. And that’s why universal income never works. Because Elon Musk doesn’t understand is that everyone doesn’t get to drive a Telsa – and why should he, when you can’t drive a Telsa. So the people that want to be at the same level as Elon Musk will work harder, so they can live just like he does. Human beings and animals all want the same thing – more than the next guy.

Bob Zelin

Bob Zelin
Rescue 1, Inc.
bobzelin@icloud.com

[Bob Zelin]

this product kind of reminds me of Melodyne for vocalists that cannot sing –
https://www.celemony.com/en/melodyne/what-is-melodyne

so for actors that can’t remember their lines – well, we can fix it in post.

Bob Zelin

Bob Zelin
Rescue 1, Inc.
bobzelin@icloud.com

[Jeremy Garchow]

You will be able to get your 8k monitor ration from the state. And with all the free time we have, apparently I’ll be able to 3D print my own 12k monitor. It’ll be so much better.

But editing won’t matter to me. A robot will be able to watch 20 hours of narrative movies, 20 hours of news, 20 hours of ads, 20 hours of talking heads, 20 hours of documentaries, and be able to shoot, edit, and voice anything they want after the initial burn in. You’ll KNOW it’s made by robot, but it won’t matter because we will all be frolicking in the woods and mountains doing great things, like normal human beings.

[Bob Zelin]

you miss my point Mr. Garchow, and unfortunately for you, I have thought about this for a long time, in plenty of ridiculous theoretical conversations. You will be frolicking in the woods and mountains with a fair maiden, and you will be having a wonderful time. But I will observe this, and I will say “I want that fair maiden – that fair maiden is more lovely than the one that I have”. But you sir, are better looking than I am. And so I will say “what can I do to woo away this fair maiden from Jeremy Garchow. And LET ME ASSURE YOU, that if it involves hunting down a large bear, or learning how to grow beautiful flowers, or providing for her, to a level that she says “Jeremy, why can’t we have a wonderful cave like that” – I will work HARDER than you, and she will eventually leave you, because I can provide for her, the things that she wants. And this is how the human race was developed, and progressed. I want your fair maiden, and I will do WHATEVER IT TAKES to make that happen, and unless you invent a bow and arrow (or a big rock) to stop me from doing so, I will do whatever it takes to win your fair maiden. Because I WANT MORE THAN YOU. Why – just because. Because that is the way that people are. They are competitive. They want more than the next guy. Nothing is satisfying (if you have a nice home, a nice car, a loving wife, wonderful kids, great vacations, great friends). Just look at our political candidates – what do they want ? MORE. And so we want 8K, and when we want 8K, RED, or Sony or someone else will have 12K and 16k, and your competitors will say “Jeremy sucks – look at that horrible 8K production he did – we did holographic 16 K – you should NEVER hire him ever again.” That is the history of progress. “What can I do to make my life better than yours”.

Bob

Bob Zelin
Rescue 1, Inc.
bobzelin@icloud.com

[Bill Davis]

The song of scarcity – relentlessly sung in a world of plenty.

On another topic, I was FaceTiming with the young editor in England who’s collaborating with me on an large project – and he quipped:

“You know NONE of this would have happened if you’d just let us tax the tea…”

Made me laugh.

Creator of XinTwo – https://www.xintwo.com
The shortest path to FCP X mastery.

[Mark Smith]

Just stop a moment and think about the Veritas project and people like James O’Keefe who are deft at editing and taking the words of people out of context to create an agenda driven false impression of what was actually said by a given person. Ok , so unleash Voco on the world of editorial, and then what might be possible? Thanks Adobe, please burn your source code and sprinkle the ashes over the US west of the Mississippi.

[Jeremy Garchow]

Automation will negate the human condition and all competition, because of our abundance of leisure time, Bob, it’s so obvious.

And preschool will be free!

I hope you know I am being sarcastic. I can’t see how universal income by way of automation will do anything to decrease income disparity, but will cede control in to the hands of few.