What CAN it be used for?

[Lance Bachelder]

FX pasting is a breeze. Opt + Command +V. No you don’t get a big list like FCP7 but you just mentioned FX, which I’m doing a lot of right now color timing a show with Tonalizer (just freakin awesome) and Color Board.

Lance Bachelder
Writer, Editor, Director
Irvine, California

[James Mortner]

[Ben Scott] “I would also say it is crazy for your staff to learn 2 massive pieces of software to achieve the same outcome, go with one not 2.”

Thats doesn’t sound crazy to me mate !

[Herb Sevush]

[Lance Bachelder] “No you don’t get a big list like FCP7 but you just mentioned FX, “

Your right, I only mentioned FX, you got me.

Of course the point was that FCP7 has some features still lacking in X, so are you saying that the FCPX copy attributes feature is as robust as the one found in Legacy, because I have heard many complaining that it wasn’t ?

Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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nothin’ attached to nothin’
“Deciding the spine is the process of editing” F. Bieberkopf

[Erik Lundberg]

[Richard Herd] “Interesting, because I find the keyword feature to be the best thing about X, and it is the earliest part of editing, for me.”

I agree that the database structure and asset management parts of FCPX is a very good step on the way of a really nice part of the deal. But I’d say it’s one of those things that need to mature a bit. And, as we don’t use only one tool, we’d need an asset management that was equally good for (and translated well into) the other software we’re using. Metadata and structuring is only good if you can keep it consistent through the workflow. And I’m not convinced that we’re able to keep such a consistency going in and out of FCPX. And several editors/producers/decisionmakers should be able to contribute to keywords and metadata for the same assets. Asset management should not be decentralized.

But for an intra-software organisational tool- the keywording and asset management of FCPX works great. If only…

Erik Lundberg

Technical Director, Media Technology, University of Gothenburg, Sweden

[Lance Bachelder]

I didn’t say it was as robust – it’s simply a copy FX function which I’m currently using for color timing and it’s working well. Yeah it would be great to have the full list like legacy – let’s hope they can add some of the back in a future update but maybe some of it is moved to a different method – haven’t got that deep in X yet but liking everything so far.

Lance Bachelder
Writer, Editor, Director
Irvine, California

[Alban Egger]

Herb, we know we are on opposites sides of that bench 😉

But I can give you a few features none of the “major NLEs” do that FCPX does great. And I simply never had the need for out of sync markers yet. I thought like you at first, but I have yet to get something out of sync in a way that I wasn´t able to snap it back in sync in a second (shortcut “N” is still turning snapping on). Mind you with magnetic timeline you don´t worry much about what happens on track 7 20 minutes down the timeline. It will be alright whatever you do in minute 3.

You are right about the pasting of effects though. Instead of selecting before you deselect after….not very elegant this workflow and it sometimes can mess something up. Agreed.

But it doesn’t happen often: since the color correction tool is so strong I have shortcuts to paste only that colourcorrection-effect from the clip before, two clips before or three clips before. It only copy-pastes the colourboard and leaves all other effects alone. Since color is the one effect that I copy pasted most in FCP7, that´s my workaround in X. You have to find these gems in the “command list”, but they exist.

To say “FCPX does´t do this, which I used daily” doesn´t work anymore. Because FCPX does so many things FCP7 never did and AVID does´t do for a while. You probably also find tons of features in Avi that FCP7 never did and vice versa. They all have their weaknesses and certain strengths. FCPX´s strength is versatility.

The question for me is not “what did I do how before”, but “how can I do it now and how can I get better results faster”. Believe me, I never said “Wow, that´s clever” so often about a tool.

[Herb Sevush]

[alban egger] “I can give you a few features none of the “major NLEs” do that FCPX does great.”

I have no problem with any of the things you say in this post. I am sure that FCPX has many great, unique features. It’s just that I have appointed myself head of the hyperbole police, and when you made the statement in the previous post that other than OMF and external monitoring there is nothing left for Legacy to teach FCPX I would beg to differ. I think that is overstating the case. Maybe in a year or so, but not yet.

Anyhow in about a month or so I intend to give X a thorough tryout, probably try cutting the last of my 26 episodes with it, and then I will have more to say. I might even come to agree with you, stranger things have happened.

Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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nothin’ attached to nothin’
“Deciding the spine is the process of editing” F. Bieberkopf

[Brent Cook]

Is there a way to copy and paste the parameters of a single effect? I needed that today and couldn’t figure out how to do it. I know the cmd-opt-V, but that takes the entire set of effects from your source clip and applies them to the destination clip replacing whatever effects were on the destination clip. I needed to take a single effect from the source clip and ADD it to the effects already applied to my destination clip. Possible? A search here yielded no answer to this specifically. Sorry if this is too off topic, but since copying effects was brought up…

[Richard Herd]

[Herb Sevush] “the last of my 26 episodes with it,”

Now, I’m trying to talk you out of that. So I decided to cut a film for a first time director (long time writer), and it took me an additional 3 hours just to get the thing moving with any inertia, what would normally take 15 minutes. I spent a lot of time reading the manual, just to wrap my head around “events” and then bit of time to actually do it. There was a bit of swearing involved.

Cutting an episode, with a deadline? Oh man, you are brave.

[Herb Sevush]

[Richard Herd] “Cutting an episode, with a deadline? Oh man, you are brave.”

I have long since learned that I cannot learn anything this tough without the fear of imminent bankruptcy as motivation. Besides, I’m also the post supervisor and I’ll make sure to add a week to the schedule.

Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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nothin’ attached to nothin’
“Deciding the spine is the process of editing” F. Bieberkopf