what are you hearing these days?

[Timothy Auld]

What I hear from people who use it consistently is that it’s best at present for short form jobs with a fast turnaround. I don’t know anyone who uses it on every job though.

Tim

[Brian Mulligan]

Apparently.. Final Cut Pro is now Professional.
See the twitter pic.

https://twitter.com/Jonny_Hallam/status/438287909733801984/photo/1

Brian Mulligan
Senior Editor – Autodesk Smoke
WTHR-TV Indianapolis,IN, USA
Twitter: @bkmeditor

[Richard Herd]

[TImothy Auld] “it’s best at present for short form jobs with a fast turnaround.”

What does that actually mean? I don’t think it’s true, in the sense that X is only suitable for short form. It’s true that folks are presently using for those projects because the risk is low and it’s a good place to enter and familiarize oneself with the workflow peculiarities.

A guy who posts here frequently, Tony, is using it for the opposite project (long form with a long turnaround) — a documentary. I’m inclined to agree with Tony (that) (my paraphrase) the keyword features are the most powerful organizing feature around.

X gets through the organizing process really fast, definitely faster than CS6 Premiere Pro (which has two major flaws: (1) subclips are not slipable — can do in CC; (2) cannot toggle between native mode and library mode — can do in CC).

[Bernard Newnham]

The BBC buys everything (nearly) at some point – it’s a huge and disparate place, with lots of styles and outlets. I can’t see them mainlining on X though – it’s difficult enough to get people trained on traditional stuff, let alone putting something completely non-standard into the system. But I guarantee someone on the BBC staff will be using it.

B

Bernie

[Scott Witthaus]

[Pam Picard] “Agency/editing shops/indep editors are more interested and seem to making the switch (although I’d say just in the past year or so).”

I see this happening. So many people focus on broadcast and film as it’s the only thing out there. There is a big world of visual storytelling outside those markets. A lot bigger world.

I see corporate, agencies (just finished introducing FCPX to a very large agency in my region. This is my fourth class of about 15 people each) and schools (I teach upwards of 90 grad students a year on FCPX) giving the software a try. One man shops like me are using it more and more and this could eventually get post houses to at least add a system or two to capture some of that potential revenue. Apple has the time and resources to make the product really good and not have to rush anything.

Quite honestly, I dont think Apple was counting on the “older” entrenched editor crowd making a huge switch. They are playing for the future. MHO.

Scott Witthaus
Senior Editor/Post Production Supervisor
1708 Inc./Editorial
Professor, VCU Brandcenter

[Aindreas Gallagher]

[Pam Picard] “Agency/editing shops/indep editors are more interested and seem to making the switch (although I’d say just in the past year or so).”

same old line, but there is still absolutely zero in London. I get around a fair bit, and I periodically ask most people I know. Most shops are standardising on premiere cc. (CNN, SKY, Hogarth, pile of other places) – If premiere actually supplants all the historical 7 seats across corporate and broadcast, pretty soon there won’t be much of a place left for X to go?

As an aside – I just got my first paid gig on premiere CC. To be fair – it really is lovely: sliding your finger up on the magic mouse to expand VA tracks is honestly something of a little dream.
And that timeline will eat literally anything. I think if I tossed a beta SP tape physically at the imac, Premiere would try and get it on the timeline.

https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics

[Lance Bachelder]

Nice to hear that, even with your highly publicized distain for Adobe’s subscription only model, that you’re open-minded enough to try the software. I agree that CC is really nice, not perfect by any means, but I’ve used it on every paid gig I’ve had since last June release and find it to be the current NLE champ by far.

Lance Bachelder
Writer, Editor, Director
Downtown Long Beach, California
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1680680/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1

[Aindreas Gallagher]

to be fair Lance, coming from 7 and using AE since version 4 – PPro CC is utterly delicious editing software. for my limited palette anyway.

I posted this on the other place on getting to use it on the current gig – I’m sitting on PPro 6 and legend until adobe make the pull to CC beyond bearable:

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So I took a dip in the dark side on a job. Water was indescribably nice. I want premiere pro CC something rotten. Expanding VA tracks by simply running your finger up the magic mouse is a little bit erotic frankly.

Did all the things I can’t do in 6 – turned on canvas edit indicators, got the marker notes onto the canvas (as well as the minted extended marker notes above the timeline we’ve had since AE forever), stared at the marker panel with all my notes ready to click on, turned on through edit indicators just to stare at them, played around on the timeline, really really really liked the timeline, started cutting on the timeline, really liked cutting on the timeline, pretended to be important doing dynamic trimming, generally admired all that finesse stuff they did, cut down IVs on the timeline, pancaked the timelines with the IV selects as source above the assembly using that sweet sweet adobe GUI to arrange them like two neat bricks on top of each other.

Oh Sigh. – Oh it is so so very sweeet.

https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics

[Steve Connor]

[Aindreas Gallagher] “As an aside – I just got my first paid gig on premiere CC. To be fair – it really is lovely: sliding your finger up on the magic mouse to expand VA tracks is honestly something of a little dream.
And that timeline will eat literally anything. I think if I tossed a beta SP tape physically at the imac, Premiere would try and get it on the timeline.
“

You’re going to cave in soon Aindreas, Shantanu and the entire management team are just waiting for you personally to sign up, then they’ll know they’ve won!

Steve Connor

There’s nothing we can’t argue about on the FCPX COW Forum

[David Mathis]

[Aindreas Gallagher] “As an aside – I just got my first paid gig on premiere CC. To be fair – it really is lovely: sliding your finger up on the magic mouse to expand VA tracks is honestly something of a little dream.
And that timeline will eat literally anything. I think if I tossed a beta SP tape physically at the imac, Premiere would try and get it on the timeline.”

I am thinking about jumping in with both feet but not head first. Not sure how deep the water is or if there is a huge rock for me to get injured on. Besides the undercurrent I am not sure what might be in the water.

Looks like we have arrived at “The Twilight Zone” kids!