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  • Graham Bernard

    August 6, 2013 at 9:00 pm

    Is there a reason why you have everything matching to 1.333 but in the final render it uses a PAR of 1.212? I’m guessing that that would produce taller skinnier pixels and squeeze the picture together?

    Cheers

    Grazie

    Video Content Creator and Potter
    PC 7 64-bit 16gb * Intel® Core™i7-2600k Quad Core 3.40GHz * 2GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 560 Ti
    Cameras: Canon XF300 + PowerShot SX50HS Bridge

  • Graham Bernard

    August 6, 2013 at 9:09 pm

    I also noted that your own Template had been changed and NOT yet saved. I can clearly see an “unsaved” ASTERISK next to that original post of yours. This suggests that you had changed the Template and NOT saved it, but now you have? Here’s what I mean:-

    Maybe there has been an alteration and that alteration could be that switch to 1.212 PAR?

    Dunno…..

    Grazie

    Video Content Creator and Potter
    PC 7 64-bit 16gb * Intel® Core™i7-2600k Quad Core 3.40GHz * 2GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 560 Ti
    Cameras: Canon XF300 + PowerShot SX50HS Bridge

  • Scott Sullivan

    August 6, 2013 at 9:38 pm

    No – nothing I do makes that PAR go away on the render settings. No matter what setting I select, it always says 1.212.

    How does one change this on the render to match project settings?

  • Scott Sullivan

    August 6, 2013 at 9:42 pm

    HDV settings make it change to 1.333, but I’m trying to render for DVD.

  • Graham Bernard

    August 7, 2013 at 7:10 am

    Apart from not using Windows Media Player to Preview that 1.212 PAR, try bringing it back into Vegas, or even showing the DVD on a rewritable? It could be that WMP can’t cope with that PAR and is making the best from it. Try VLC Player. It could be that WMP now isn’t 1.212 aware – dunno?

    At least we all know your workflow up to and including your rendering.

    Sorry, I can’t add much further than this.

    Grazie

    Video Content Creator and Potter
    PC 7 64-bit 16gb * Intel® Core™i7-2600k Quad Core 3.40GHz * 2GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 560 Ti
    Cameras: Canon XF300 + PowerShot SX50HS Bridge

  • Scott Sullivan

    August 7, 2013 at 12:08 pm

    The cropping occurs even in the Vegas editing window during render, although it does not occur when just playing back without rendering.

    I’m really at a loss here. This is a huge project that has already been edited and I’m not sure what to do.

    What do you think about rendering with the HDV 720-25p settings for DVD? Is that file size too big for DVD? This is the only render setting that does not produce the cropping because with this setting that makes the render PAR 1.000 which seems to at least get rid of that cropping.

  • Bill Burnette

    August 7, 2013 at 1:34 pm

    When you say “fills the screen in editing” (in the OP) do you mean you are using a separate monitor for preview? If so what kind & is the monitor cropping a bit (overscan)?

    When you added the picture to the timeline, how did you ensure that the picture would fill the frame? E.g. one way is to go to the pan/crop parameters and set the cropping to match the output aspect ratio, first being sure your project output aspect ratio matches your rendering (DVD) aspect ratio (for the whole image, not the pixels).

  • Scott Sullivan

    August 7, 2013 at 2:23 pm

    Hi
    Filling the screen meaning the preview window inside of Vegas. There is no cropping of the overlay picture when editing. However, Vegas preview window does crop when I render.

    I added the pic above the video and then right clicked and “Match output ratio”.

    Was this wrong?

  • Graham Bernard

    August 7, 2013 at 3:45 pm

    Ah!

    You EITHER want to use the Preset in PanCrop for your aspect ratio to the TV, OR Right Click on the Picture on PanCrop and Match Output Aspect. Your Project Settings are 16×9 – Widescreen – Make sure your PanCrop is also Widescreen. Otherwise you will have a 4×3 inside of a 16×9 which you say is set to Match Output which WILL give you those side bars!

    I think we are getting somewhere.

    Grazie

    Video Content Creator and Potter
    PC 7 64-bit 16gb * Intel® Core™i7-2600k Quad Core 3.40GHz * 2GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 560 Ti
    Cameras: Canon XF300 + PowerShot SX50HS Bridge

  • Bill Burnette

    August 7, 2013 at 4:50 pm

    Another clue would be the original pixel size of the picture. Also, still wondering why the borders don’t show in the preview.

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