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  • Way(s) to link up After Effects and SV12?

    Posted by Chris Summers on May 30, 2013 at 1:51 am

    Hello guys,
    I’m trying to achieve some sort of a workflow with BMCC Cinema DNG files. Because it’s my first experience shooting with raw footage, i’m so lost.

    I refuse to use Resolve, as I’m accustomed to Adobe Camera RAW for correcting stills, so using this to grade CDNG files is a huge must. As a result, i’ve added over 100 clips from a recent “shoot” into Adobe After Effects, done my cinematic grading and need to have some sort of a proxy export for SV12 so I can edit..

    The workflow from Resolve is theoretically easier, but the color controls are foreign and it appears there’s been some XML trouble with SV12 and Resolve anyway.

    I can’t seem to find an answer to this specific question, but if it’s been asked before, I apologize…

    thanks

    John Rofrano replied 12 years, 11 months ago 2 Members · 3 Replies
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  • John Rofrano

    May 31, 2013 at 10:43 pm

    One option might be to render to CineForm from After Effects. This is how I get all of my After Effects work into Vegas Pro. CineForm is a high quality digital intermediary codec that is visually lossless and holds up well to multiple renders and edits smoothly in Vegas Pro.

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

  • Chris Summers

    June 3, 2013 at 11:40 pm

    Hey John,
    I wasn’t able to see this before I started the process, but I began exporting proxy files from AE6 in the .mp4 format (Half quality @ 1200×675), with the “Set Proxy” option.
    Once all my files are exported as proxies (today or tomorrow), I will begin the basic cut in SV12, and try to get it into After Effects to relink the files from the proxies.
    My problem is with this (as I’ve never handled a video workflow before), is how to do this..
    – should I use XML or EDL for Vegas -> After Effects? (amateur question!)
    – how do I relink once I get the project into AE6?
    – once I have my clips relinked in AE6, since I have to do more complex editing such as layering tracks, stabilizing motion, etc… is there a way for me to just drop these full, 2.5K project files from AE6 back into Sony Vegas.. i’m assuming there is a way but I wouldn’t be surprised if I were wrong.
    Or do I have to finish the editing in After Effects itself … or Premiere Pro via dynamic link (which I’d really not like, I still haven’t learned much of it yet). ?

    Thanks

  • John Rofrano

    June 5, 2013 at 11:58 am

    [Chris Summers] “- should I use XML or EDL for Vegas -> After Effects? (amateur question!)”

    You should use File | Export | Premiere/After Effects (*.prproj). Then open that project in After Effects.

    [Chris Summers] “- how do I relink once I get the project into AE6?”

    I have no idea. After Effects allows you to specify the proxy for the actual footage but not the other way around. It assumes the full res footage is on the timeline and you want to assign the proxy from the file system.

    [Chris Summers] “- once I have my clips relinked in AE6, since I have to do more complex editing such as layering tracks, stabilizing motion, etc… is there a way for me to just drop these full, 2.5K project files from AE6 back into Sony Vegas.. i’m assuming there is a way but I wouldn’t be surprised if I were wrong.”

    I’m really not following how this is going to work. After Effects is not an NLE. It doesn’t allow more than one clip on a track. How are you going to edit in Vegas and have After Effects continue to work with that. You will have 1000’s of tracks in After Effects; one for each event on a Vegas track.

    Are you just cutting in Vegas with no effects? (because none of the effects will carry over)

    Personally I would do all of my editing in an NLE like Vegas Pro and then render a version to be graded in After Effects. I’m not sure that going round-trip back and forth is going to work.

    I would ask these questions in the After Effects forum because they are beyond just Vegas Pro. Vegas gives you the project exchange but I’m not sure how After Effects is going to work. I only use After Effects for special effects on short sections of a larger Vegas Pro project. I’ve never tried to bring an entire project in (sorry).

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

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