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  • Warp stabilizer freak out

    Posted by Todd Vanslyck on January 29, 2013 at 8:53 pm

    Ahhh warp stabilizer, how I love and hate thee. I thought coming from FCP’s SmoothCam ridden with problems of it’s own we would get along.
    This has happened twice now. I apply warp stabilizer, magic bullet looks (don’t get me started on my love-hate with that one too) and an unsharp mask. Hit analyze and it’s perfect. Render out my effects and it’s perfect. Close premiere and re-open…not perfect. It shifts the ENTIRE FRAME up and to the left on every clip I’ve applied WS.
    If I turn WS off it pops back to the center. When I turn it back on it pops back up to the left. The only way to fix it (temporarily of course) is to delete the effect and re-apply, re-analyze, etc.
    Rinse, lather, repeat.
    Any insight?

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    Casey Culver replied 11 years, 6 months ago 7 Members · 10 Replies
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  • Ivan Myles

    January 29, 2013 at 9:20 pm

    To resolve in Premiere:

    – Create a new sequence that matches the clip’s settings.
    – Apply warp stabilizer to the clip.
    – Insert the new sequence into you main timeline. You should be able to change scale, frame rate, etc of the embedded timeline as though it were the original clip.

    If you are only positioning the clip (as opposed to warping), a better option is the motion stabilizer function in After Effects. It lets you control the target point, add/change the target within the clip, and edit the stabilization keyframes. In addition, the sequence does not need to be the same resolution or frame rate as the source footage. The process is as follows:

    – Open a new project in After Effects.
    – Import the clip and insert it on a new AE sequence.
    – Apply the Tracker > Stabilize Motion effect. Modify/edit until you are satisfied with the results.
    – Optional: Increase the project bit depth to 16- or 32-bit.
    – Import the AE project to Premiere and insert it on your main timeline.

  • Todd Vanslyck

    January 29, 2013 at 9:34 pm

    Actually the sequence does match the clip settings, that’s what’s so confusing. Otherwise I wouldn’t be able to apply the effect in the first place. I have a hunch it may have something to do with MB Looks. I’ve got another sequence not using Looks but MB Mojo and they’re not losing anything.

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  • Ann Bens

    January 29, 2013 at 9:58 pm

    Nest the clip with the effects then apply the Stabilizer.
    See if that will help.

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  • Dan Sakols

    January 30, 2013 at 12:17 am

    Im very interested to hear how this plays out. Im just moving off FCP 7 because of frusteration with smoothcam, and plug ins like Mercalli and Lock and Load. Preliminary tests with PP and Warp look really promising…id freak out too if stuff starts jumping around or clips get radically zoomed in even for a light touch of stabilization.

    dan

  • Todd Vanslyck

    January 30, 2013 at 4:00 pm

    Nesting the clip did not work

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  • Jeff Pulera

    January 30, 2013 at 4:01 pm

    Nobody likes work-arounds and extra steps, but obviously the combo of effects applied don’t play well together. If none of the other suggestions resolve the issue, it might be easiest to do this – apply WS to the clips in question, and then EXPORT that area of the timeline to a new clip. Import that clip and drop it over the originals, THEN apply your other effects to that.

    Others may chime in and say “Yes, but the generational loss and recompression….”. Probably not a Hollywood production and no one will notice. Been doing this kind of workflow for years for various reasons.

    Thanks

    Jeff Pulera
    Safe Harbor Computers

  • Todd Vanslyck

    January 30, 2013 at 4:02 pm

    I haven’t had too many problems with WS until now. I’m suspecting more and more it’s something to do with Magic Bullet Looks.
    That dang plugin…

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  • Todd Vanslyck

    January 30, 2013 at 4:39 pm

    I’ve considered that but it’s such a royal pain in the arse! I have quite a few of them spanning over a large project.
    grumble grumble

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  • Michael West

    January 30, 2013 at 9:21 pm

    I’ve used Warp Stabilizer on a 75 minute film transfer now with warp and weave problems. It was very difficult as it doesn’t seem to have scene recognition. I cut the project into scenes, applied Warp Stabiliser to one clip, adjusted, then turned off, copied and pasted parameters to all clips, then activated and rendered each clip one by one requiring a great deal of time (more than a month). One thing I found helpful was to click the detailed analysis box. Afterward I used the standard motion adjuster to position the clips back into frame lines; highly unsatisfactory.

  • Casey Culver

    October 22, 2014 at 10:35 pm

    Any chance you’re shooting 60P (59.94) frame rate? I’m getting the same problem but worse.. But if I do 23.97, it doesn’t get screwy – wonder if there’s a frame rate bug…

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