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  • WARNING TO NEW COLOR USERS

    Posted by Russell Lasson on May 18, 2007 at 5:24 pm

    I posted this in the Color forum, but then thought that many of you will be starting to play around with Color in the coming days and weeks, I thought it would be benificial for you as well.

    Here is a list of current do’s and don’ts that Apple has release on Color. I suggest you read it, even if it doesn’t make sense to you right now, down the road, it could save your tail.

    https://www.apple.com/support/releasenotes/en/Color_1.0_rn/

    And will someone let me know if there is an physical manual for Color that is published with FCS2? What about a electronic one?

    -Russ

    Walter Biscardi replied 18 years, 11 months ago 19 Members · 50 Replies
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  • Craig Sommerer

    May 18, 2007 at 5:31 pm

    Scroll down this thread, someone kindly inventoried the printed and electronic documentation. https://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=964183&tstart=0

  • David Roth weiss

    May 18, 2007 at 5:46 pm

    The blurb about Color states:

    Color Is Not Compatible with Drop Frame Sequences and EDLs
    If you intend to grade a sequence in Color, the Timecode used by that sequence must be non-drop frame to guarantee that every clip will be in sync after the Final Cut Pro

  • Shane Ross

    May 18, 2007 at 5:52 pm

    WHAT? I can see that for DVCPRO HD, as it is NDF already, but what about DV? Digibeta? I have timelines that are DF because they are rigidly timed…

    What is the deal with this? Walter, was this true with Final Touch too?

    Shane

    Littlefrog Post
    http://www.lfhd.net

  • Russell Lasson

    May 18, 2007 at 5:56 pm

    Drop Timecode was never listed as an XML issue in FinalTouch that I know of (used FT for 2 years), but it very well could have been a phantom issue. There were so many crazy things that could happen, it was hard to tell what was causing the problem. Now it looks like they found one of the issues.

    -Russ

  • Jeremy Garchow

    May 18, 2007 at 6:01 pm

    Holy sh*t.

    Good luck all you Guinea Pigs. I hope it goes well for you.

    Color doesn’t support anamorphic SD and outputs illegal values. At least they tell you about it first.

    Here’s to Color 1.1

    Jeremy

  • Bill

    May 18, 2007 at 6:11 pm

    Well, if sd drop frame is useless than a majority of the users will pull it off their dock after install. Look forward to an update by time it hits the shelves. Maybe they bit off a little more then they could chew at one time. Or, maybe someone sent out a fake email stating FCS2 was ready for deployment.

    Word has it they have been shuffling staff like crazy to meet the deadlines for FCS2, iPhone and Leopard. I have no doubt the problem will be addressed asap.

  • Russell Lasson

    May 18, 2007 at 6:21 pm
  • Ben Insler

    May 18, 2007 at 6:27 pm

    None of this sounds very good. I was really looking forward to Color (well, I guess I still am). Nonetheless, re:

    [JeremyG] “…and outputs illegal values”

    That’s not the worst thing. It means that you can grade for formats other than broadcast video (like film, which can have luma values higher than 100… although whether that’s supported in Color may be a totally different issue).

    Thanks for posting the release notes though!

    -Ben

  • Jeremy Garchow

    May 18, 2007 at 6:32 pm

    [Ben Insler] “That’s not the worst thing.”

    I think you misunderstood. It’s not that is capable of outputting illegal values, it’s that it does whether you want to or not. Apple suggests a hardware legalizer, BTW I never correct for film:

    “The borders of extremely high-contrast features (such as the boundaries of specular highlights and computer-generated graphics) may exhibit spikes over 100 and under 0 when outputting to external video scopes, despite the Broadcast Safe settings you

  • Walter Biscardi

    May 18, 2007 at 6:33 pm

    [JeremyG] “Color doesn’t support anamorphic SD and outputs illegal values.”

    Absolutely it does because you can grade film. But you can set the floor and ceiling to be whatever you want it to be, generally I set 0 and 99. Are you saying the notes claim even if you set for a ceiling of 99 it can still output above 100?

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
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