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  • wanting to pan jpg images

    Posted by Gilles Gagnon on March 12, 2010 at 2:26 am

    I’m having problems creating image pans in my video.

    I imported jpgs, which are 1900×2400 pixels or so (much less than my project). I then use the Event Pan/crop tool trying to do a diagonal pan with zoom in or out. this is not working for me. when I size my crop area, the jpgs ends up “shrinking” and I’m left with black side bars. I’ve tried doing a “match source/output aspect” with little success. the only thing I’ve been able to do is a vertical pan.

    How can I do this?
    THanks,
    Gilles

    Gilles Gagnon replied 16 years, 2 months ago 4 Members · 8 Replies
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  • Douglas Spotted eagle

    March 12, 2010 at 4:12 am

    If you can only get vertical pans, is your horizontal locked off?
    You’ve got to keep the target area inside the limits of the image. Vegas isn’t changing the image, merely cropping what’s on the sides or top of the image. “Coloring outside the lines” means you’ll have pillar boxes or letter boxes.

    Douglas Spotted Eagle
    VASST

    Certified Sony Vegas Trainer
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  • Bob Peterson

    March 12, 2010 at 4:41 am

    You mean the jpeg is much larger than your project don’t you? I’m not sure that matching the output aspect will help you unless you are trying to see the entire jpeg at once within your video. If you are shrinking the video by dragging a corner, you simply need to drag in the opposite direction to expand it. You must expand it to zoom in. If you shrink it too much, it will become too small to fill the screen. That will reveal black “space” behind the image. That is probably why you think you are seeing black bars.

  • Gilles Gagnon

    March 12, 2010 at 12:22 pm

    Thanks DSE and Bob,

    I don’t have the aspect ration locked. I should have been more precise.

    I guess the problem is I’m having a heck of a time understanding how the pan and crop tool works. When I try to zoom into an image by expanding the box, the image often does no longer fits the entire viewing area.

    I’m trying to get a bit of a “Ken Burns effect” where I could start zoomed in on a part of the image and slowly reveal more of it as I zoom out. OR… pan from a part of an image to another.

    also, I’m finding difficult to relate to the window in pan/crop tool (with the “F”). I thought it would simply contain what will be seen on screen but apparently not.

    If someone could also point me to an article that describes how to interpret it, that would be great!

    Gilles

  • Bob Peterson

    March 12, 2010 at 2:27 pm

    Think about it. If you are zooming in, why would the viewing area continue to show the entire image? You are zooming in so that you can see more detail. You can only see more detail if things get larger. When the image gets larger, you can no longer see the entire image within the fixed size of a TV, projector, etc. The increase in size is also what gives you the ability to pan.

  • John Rofrano

    March 12, 2010 at 2:37 pm

    I don’t have the aspect ration locked.

    You should if you want the image to fit the aspect of your project. Otherwise whatever is outside the project aspect will be black (or show the track below)

    I guess the problem is I’m having a heck of a time understanding how the pan and crop tool works. When I try to zoom into an image by expanding the box, the image often does no longer fits the entire viewing area.

    You don’t zoom in by expanding the box. You zoom in by making the box smaller. You zoom out by expanding the box and if you zoom out too far you’ll see black edges.

    I’m finding difficult to relate to the window in pan/crop tool (with the “F”). I thought it would simply contain what will be seen on screen but apparently not. If someone could also point me to an article that describes how to interpret it, that would be great!

    It’s quite simple: “F” is the camera Frame. Think of it as a virtual Viewfinder on your video camera. If the image completely fills the “F” it will fill the screen. If the image is smaller than the “F” there will be black on the screen where the image is not.

    If you think of it in terms of camera movements, by making the “F” area larger you are pulling back to take in more area making the image smaller. By making the “F” smaller, you are pushing in and filling the viewfinder will a smaller amount of the image.

    Does that help?

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

  • Bob Peterson

    March 12, 2010 at 2:57 pm

    If the jpeg’s aspect ratio does not match the project’s, forcing it to fit the project will distort the jpeg image. This matters if the intent is to zoom and pan the jpeg. If that is the case, the jpeg will probably be larger than the viewing area, and it will not leave black borders unless the viewing area moves beyond the jpeg boundary.

  • John Rofrano

    March 12, 2010 at 3:16 pm

    If the jpeg’s aspect ratio does not match the project’s, forcing it to fit the project will distort the jpeg image.

    Good point. I left out an important step. If you have Maintain Aspect enabled, AND then right-click the Frame and select “Match Output Aspect” you are guaranteed that the image fills the frame, cropping off any areas outside the project aspect. It’s the Match Output Aspect step that I left out. (sorry)

    Just to be clear, Maintain Aspect ensures that any resizing because of cropping is done quality in both the width and height. Maintain Aspect actually prevents an image from being distorted.

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

  • Gilles Gagnon

    March 13, 2010 at 2:36 am

    Yes John, Thanks!

    This helps tremendously. I’ll give it another try armed with this new information….
    Gilles

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