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Walter Biscardi walks through PPro from an FCP perspective
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Jesus Christ. Well that sounds.. reasonably effective. that’s good.
Ok – think of five things you proper dislike in premiere – what are they? top of your head any order –
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Do not underestimate my stupidity.
a few Qs…
Native editing should be your first choice
erm, just checking – what do we mean here – like the codec that walked in the door? it has been drilled into my head that it is a sin under god to edit with say H264/AVCHD given the kinds of temporal compression it employs etc etc. I think I would need to go to confession if I edited a H264 timeline. Is it really OK?Intermediate. Actually in PP you can choose your intermediate codec. It can be ProRes, DNxHD, Cineform.
I thought apple.. Im thick as bricks – I’ve been FCP since birth – I thought ProRes was somehow exclusive to FCP? So if I just transcode the rushes with compressor or something first – I’m off to the races with ProRes QTs in PPro? They’ll render out? Or is that the output itself just can’t be encoded as ProRes?I would ask more, but then I would start to look dangerously stupid.
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[Aindreas Gallagher] “think of five things you proper dislike in premiere”
There are dozens of things I yell at Premiere for every day.At this very moment, my biggest peeve is that Premiere will de-select a clip in the Media Browser (not the project window) when I save a project. And it doesn’t always do it, just when I’m not looking – so when I look back at the Media Browser, I’ve lost my place (and it doesn’t help that a selected clip in the media browser is only a few shades gray off an unselected one). It sounds silly, but this tiny thing slows me down every day.
Would love to be able to import titles into After Effects.
There’s far more I can find wrong, but then you’ll go running back to FCP. 🙂
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Editing natively with H.264 in Premiere is fine. One could argue that transcoding footage to ProRes reduces quality (since it’s a lossy codec). If you need to edit in 10-bit (or higher), Premiere can do this, simply by changing the edit mode to suit your needs.
Premiere edits ProRes just fine, it simply cannot encode to it (at least, not in Windows). Apple never made it a true QuickTime codec, so blame them.
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Mate you’re having a laugh – there’s no shagging FCP to run back to. There’s a big purple Barney in the editsuite waving his arms around going
“Immm mmmagnnnetic! Looiikkee theee iPPad!!! Puurrllayyy witthhh meee!!!” And then I just back out of the edit suite screaming. Apple have mind raped me basically.http://www.ogallchoir.net
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Nah I figured that was an apple lock in alright. It’s no mad biggie. In theory there’s crazy space savings there – I did a cut of a behind the scenes thing of a music video, they’d shot tons on a pair of 5Ds, the same suite where i was picking up the material was throwing around piles of prores from the Arri like for the main shoot thing – so if I was on premiere I could really just grab all that 5D avchd and just start bashing away with it? no transcoding for Andy – its totally Kosher to stay native with the camera format? Even FCPX basically wants to transcode everything it sees, it just doesn’t tell you its doing it, you can stop it, but it wants to.. annnyway – so when you’re outputting say, and its going out to an Avid or something or even back onto an FCP suite god help us all, what do you initially send out of premiere? lossless or animation or something? And then encode it to prores in compressor or something? I know the transcoding is bit and all that. Am I being very stupid about codecs? I’ve been mindlessly selecting ProRes for a long time now.
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Yes, it truly edits natively, and will mix and match (I’m sure doing a cross-dissolve between 5D footage and Intra-AVC will blow your mind).
As I said, in the few instances where rendering previews to a specific codec is required (previews being what Premiere creates to allow real-time playback of the timeline), you can pick and choose your codec.
When it comes time to output using Media Encoder, or Encore, I just give the client/facility whatever they ask for. If they ask for ProRes, I tell them to pick something else.
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I’ve been computer agnostic for a long time. My last computer was a PC running Avid, but when it came time to upgrade I finally went Mac because I figured sooner or later I’d need to be able to run FCP. That was 2 years ago, and I never had to run FCP (even though I own it). Now it looks like I probably never will.
Seems like I usually get 4 years or so out of a workstation. So I’ll probably go PC the next go around too, in a year or two.
Chris
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top of my head:
1) 2 second pause where I can’t do anything while it auto saves.
2) Premiere defaults to trying to play back linked AE comps without rendering, which sounds fine except when ever I do a project with green-screen interviews, I end up with dosens of linked comps that can’t play back, and I have to go through and try playing each one until Premiere decides it really can’t play them back after all, and maybe rendering would be better.
3) When importing files from File biased cameras, clips which were split up because of the 4GB file size limit are duplicated. For example, If have two P2 clips named 001YG and 0021h which are part of the same clip, Premiere will give you two clips named 001YG which contain the footage from both clips. I have to go through and delete all the duplicates or my project will be a little hard to use…
4) There’s a funny bug with merged clips, but that will be fixed soon I expect, since Merged Clips is new in 5.5
That’s all I can think of really. I don’t come across any other bugs offen enough to warrant mention.
a side note. I tried to export a title to AE… I ended up with an AE comp with a %50 transparent black solid. Smells like a bug.
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yeah, I was always a rabid fan of Mac products, argued for them and stuff, but I always bought myself PCs from WinNT4 on – liked to do bits of 3DSMAX as well as AE, but then i started to get more and more into the FCP editing side at work, hence my current streak of apple land.
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