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  • Video output is not as good as the input…HELP!!!!

    Posted by Rhys Westmoreland on November 26, 2008 at 5:27 pm

    Hello all,

    I have Premier Pro CS3 at work. I have done some taping on a HDR-HC9 high definition camera. I have 2 options. To save as an .AVI or .MPEG. I have used both version and use encore to burn to DVD. When viewing on the preview, it looks fantastic. When burned on to DVD and viewed on PC or even TV, the quality is the pits and I mean the pits. Now I do understand that there are limitations but this is absurd. I thought that I should at least get the quality at least the same as the shot video. Here are some of my settings:

    CBR 7mbits
    deinterlace
    upper field and progressive
    pcm audio

    no changes in encore because I burn directly to DVD without menus just to check out the quality.

    Just to add more info, looking at mountains and sky there is jagged edges on the edges of the mountains on both upper field and progressive.

    Can anyone help with this quality issue?

    Thanks

    Vince Becquiot replied 17 years, 5 months ago 5 Members · 7 Replies
  • 7 Replies
  • Vince Becquiot

    November 26, 2008 at 6:15 pm

    There are a couple of issues with your settings.

    First, I don’t believe this camera supports progressive recording.

    If you check deinterlace, you will lose half your resolution, so uncheck that.

    You will however see some interlacing artifacts when viewed on a computer, that’s the nature of interlaced footage.

    Make sure you keep the same field order as your footage and again, don’t choose progressive unless the footage was shot in progressive.

    Finally, the bit rate will depend on how long the video is.

    Under 1 hour, you can use 8MB / CBR. Above that you’ll have to calculate the VBR rate.

    Vince Becquiot
    Director | Editor

    Kaptis Studios
    San Francisco – Bay Area

  • Adam Clements

    November 26, 2008 at 6:32 pm

    Also, remember that if you’re only using regular DVD’s (ie as opposed to Blu-Ray or HD-DVD) then you’re compressing down to Standard Definition anyway, so it won’t ever look as good as your original HD footage.

  • Jon Barrie

    November 26, 2008 at 9:49 pm

    Biggest quality loss is in deinterlacing. That removes half the resolution, causing jaggy edges.

    Keep the field dominance the same as the oringinal footage. HD based formats are upper field first, but check that your camera records this way. (google).

    HD will always look cleaner and better than down res’d DVD. Then if its watched on a computer the resolution of the computer screen is higher than the DVD, a HDTV again higher screen res than DVD signal = DVD picture blow up, which makes the imperfections of compression more noticeable.

    1st thing. Don’t deinterlace.

    Jon Barrie
    aJBprods
    http://www.jonbarrie.net

  • Jean philippe Stuart

    November 26, 2008 at 10:26 pm

    Hi,

    I had issues with the quality also .How is your DVD after the proposed changes?
    With FCP I can’t burm to HD blue-ray yet. And I don’t see any “no deinterlace” on Compressor.

  • Jon Barrie

    November 26, 2008 at 10:35 pm

    Are you running FCP/PPro?
    Are you using Compressor?
    PPro uses Adobe Media Encoder to compress MPEG-2 for DVD Authoring.
    PPro has a tick box for deinterlacing in the AME UI top left corner (CS3).
    If you are exporting a QT mov file from PPro to use in Compressor you are wasting time and HDD space. but this process will allow you to deinterlace too. Untick that function.

    What is your workflow?

    Jon Barrie
    aJBprods
    http://www.jonbarrie.net

  • Rhys Westmoreland

    November 27, 2008 at 3:08 am

    Thanks for all your input. I just thought with being able to watch standard Movie DVD’s with great quality on the HD TV with a standard player, I could get the same from PPro. I am going to assume that I will NOT get that quality from PPro.

    I would also like to know if I can have HD on a regular DVD from PPro.

    Thanks

  • Vince Becquiot

    November 27, 2008 at 3:26 am

    Well, this really doesn’t have to do with Premiere, or at least very little.

    If by standard DVD you mean Hollywood type media, most are encoded from film, that pretty much says it all. Not SD or sub $100000 camera will give you that kind of resolution.

    Standard DVDs are also encoded separately for different scenes with precise keyframing, nothing that Premiere or any editing app can achieve.

    No, you can’t put HD on a standard DVD that will play on a standard player.

    Vince Becquiot
    Director | Editor

    Kaptis Studios
    San Francisco – Bay Area

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