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video noise reduction
Posted by Dennis Couzin on May 18, 2010 at 11:20 pmI’m seeking recommendations for video noise reduction.
My workflow rests heavily on Compressor, but Compressor still has the same old noise reduction filter as Compressor 2 had. It does a spatial (intra-frame) reduction only. If video noise is random frame to frame, then only a spatio-temporal filter can do well, because spatial noise removal will soften textures in the image that are not noise.
Spatio-temporal noise reduction filters exist. I don’t think Compressor accepts plug-ins. Which spatio-temporal noise reduction filters are available as plug-ins for FCP?
Thanks.Kyler Boudreau replied 15 years, 4 months ago 5 Members · 11 Replies -
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Michael Gissing
May 19, 2010 at 12:15 amI purchased Video Purifier from Innobits recently. Since then the price has come down.
Check the demo and see if it what you are after –
https://www.innobits.com/purifier.html
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Dennis Couzin
May 19, 2010 at 4:32 amMichael, thanks for these leads. Innobits’ Purifier indeed is spatio-temporal. I’m trying the demo. Quite strange software. It might be fun (and might work).
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Dennis Couzin
June 16, 2010 at 3:46 amInnobits’ Purifier really works! It’s denoising function does not soften the image at all. It is extremely beneficial when mpeg2 compression will later be applied: saves bandwidth for the image; reduces mpeg2 artifacts.
I’m investigating whether Purifier rescales and deinterlaces better than Compressor’s “optical flow” algorithms.
Purifier’s user interface is a little nutty but the developers are smart and accessible.
Thanks Michael for a great tip. -
Rafael Amador
June 16, 2010 at 3:53 am[Dennis Couzin] “Innobits’ Purifier really works! It’s denoising function does not soften the image at all. It is extremely beneficial when mpeg2 compression will later be applied: saves bandwidth for the image; reduces mpeg2 artifacts.
I’m investigating whether Purifier rescales and deinterlaces better than Compressor’s “optical flow” algorithms.
Purifier’s user interface is a little nutty but the developers are smart and accessible.
Thanks Michael for a great tip.”
Careful with Purifier.
I stopped using it long ago because it clips the picture.
Is a pity because is a very good application and the interface is great, but you can only use it after CC.
For me this is a no-no. De-noising must be done on the raw footage.
Now I use Purifier only for downscaling.
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Kyler Boudreau
January 4, 2011 at 5:57 pmRafael:
I just tried Video Purifier and it seems to work, but what do you mean about clipping? Is there another product you suggest?
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David Roth weiss
January 4, 2011 at 6:21 pmI’m very high on Neat Video’s Noise Reduction filter these days. I have a review coming out soon right here on The Cow with some truly miraculous before and after clips.
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Kyler Boudreau
January 4, 2011 at 6:39 pmThanks! I’m trying it out now and initial results are great, but it is softening my footage and purifier didn’t do that. any ideas? i’m messing with neat video’s advanced settings trying to see if I can make it better. I’d much rather use an FCP plugin prior to color as opposed to the clunky interface of purifier.
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David Roth weiss
January 4, 2011 at 6:47 pmMake certain to watch the tutorial on their website. Use sharpening… Even when maxed it doesn’t freak like most sharpening tools.
If you stare at a still frame it may appear like it’s softening things excessively, but I find that playing the moving video tends to diminish that. And, keep in mind, nobody but you is watching a side by side comparison.
David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor/Colorist
David Weiss Productions, Inc.
Los Angeles
https://www.drwfilms.comPOST-PRODUCTION WITHOUT THE USUAL INSANITY ™
A forum host of Creative COW’s Business & Marketing and Apple Final Cut Pro forums. Formerly host of the Apple Final Cut Basics, Indie Film & Documentary, and Film History & Appreciations forums.
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Kyler Boudreau
January 4, 2011 at 6:53 pmOkay thanks for the tips. I’ll sharpen some more. Just raised that and it did help…got me to about the same place VP was….so this seems to be a much better option. This way I can correct before color which should end up better right? Someone else mentioned that…I think Rafael.
Do you leave it in standard or work in advanced mode? I’ll watch the video, but all of that color info in advanced is over my head. I’m an editor and newer to FCP on top of that (Avid in the past). This color stuff is confusing. =)
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David Roth weiss
January 4, 2011 at 6:58 pmJust do the normal automatic thing separately for every clip. If you want to become a full time professional Neat Video “noise reductionist” (yes, I made that up) there’s always time for that later…
David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor/Colorist
David Weiss Productions, Inc.
Los Angeles
https://www.drwfilms.comPOST-PRODUCTION WITHOUT THE USUAL INSANITY ™
A forum host of Creative COW’s Business & Marketing and Apple Final Cut Pro forums. Formerly host of the Apple Final Cut Basics, Indie Film & Documentary, and Film History & Appreciations forums.
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