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  • Video from Avid to After Effects

    Posted by Erik on February 21, 2006 at 1:59 am

    Hello all!
    I am working with Avid Composer and After Effects 6.5 and has a video question. It seems that everytime I export video from Avid for use in After Effects, the video never looks quite as good in AE as in the Avid. My photographers are shooting on BETACAM Sx and I am importing the video from an SX deck into AVID at 1:1 OMF setting. I have tried many different exportation methods and nothing really seems all that great. I’m not as knowledgable about video as I should be and I am sure theres something I am missing. I was wondering if anyone was working with a similar set up and had an idea as to the best way to get the footage in AE. Its important i get the video into AE as cleanly for keying…

    Thanks in advance…
    Erik

    Erik replied 20 years, 3 months ago 3 Members · 3 Replies
  • 3 Replies
  • Chris Smith

    February 21, 2006 at 3:15 am

    I don’t know MC, but in DS, I export video as quicktime (animation codec). But set the setting to ‘graphics’ mode because Animation is an RGB codec. Set it to ‘video’ mode if the codec you render to is YUV.

    Same deal with import.

    Chris Smith
    https://www.sugarfilmproduction.com

  • Carolyn Fusinato

    February 22, 2006 at 6:45 pm

    Hey Erik!

    AVID recommends that “To use Avid source footage in After Effects, Adobe recommends exporting Avid clips in a movie format because QuickTime and AVI formats allow you to maintain the Avid compression” https://www.avid.com/onlineSupport/supportcontent.asp?contentID=3096

    They also recommend capturing the footage at the best quality that you can. For a key that may be necessary, but most of the time I import footage at the settings that our editors edit in which is AVID Meridien 2:1 or AVID DV. If you don’t know if your editing system is lower field or upper field priority, test it. I use Tim Bowman’s handy Field Order Test found at https://netherlogic.com/tv_tools/.

    The AVID DV codec is a little hard to get for the Mac. I installed the AVID DV Free ap in order to get it. You can download the Meridien codec off the AVID site. If you edit on the same platform that you’re working in after effects on then you can import the codecs from the editor’s computer.

    Export Settings from AVIDs
    ———————————————–
    Exporting from AVID Adrenaline
    //Editing DV
    Export As: Quicktime Movie
    In Format Options:
    Video Settings: Avid DV, Best Quality, Options:
    (Color Input: ITU-R 601 (16-235), Resolutions:
    DV25 NTSC 411), Frames per second: 29.97
    Sound: Uncompressed, 48 Khz, 16 sample size, Stereo
    Custom:
    Video & Audio
    Video Format: 720 x 486, Size to Fit
    Color Levels: RGB
    File Field Order: Lwr Field First
    Display Aspect Ratio: Native dimensions (720 x 486)

    Exporting from AVID Symphony
    //Editing 2:1 Compressed
    Export As: Quicktime Movie
    In Format Options:
    Video Settings: Avid Meridien Compressed, Best Quality, Options:
    (Color Input: ITU-R 601 (16-235), Video Format: NTSC, Resolutions:
    2:1 Interlaced), Frames per second: 29.97
    Sound: Uncompressed, 48 Khz, 16 sample size, Stereo
    Custom:
    Video & Audio
    Video Format: 720 x 486, Size to Fit
    Color Levels: RGB
    File Field Order: Lwr Field First
    Display Aspect Ratio: Native dimensions (720 x 486)

    //Editing Uncompressed
    Export As: Quicktime Movie
    In Format Options:
    Video Settings: Avid Meridien Uncompressed, Best Quality, Options:
    (Color Input: ITU-R 601 (16-235), Type: Meridien Interlaced, Video Format: NTSC),
    Frames per second: 29.97
    Sound: Uncompressed, 48 Khz, 16 sample size, Stereo
    Custom:
    Video & Audio
    Video Format: 720 x 486, Size to Fit
    Color Levels: RGB
    File Field Order: Lwr Field First
    Display Aspect Ratio: Native dimensions (720 x 486)

    Render Settings from After Effects
    ———————————————–
    For the Avid Symphony or Adrenaline

    If comp has Alpha
    Render Settings: DV Settings
    Output Module: Avid Meridien Comp 2:1 +K Straig

    If comp has No Alpha
    Render Settings: DV Settings
    Output Module: Avid Meridien Compressed 2:1

    For the Avid Newscutters

    Render Settings: DV Settings
    Output Module: Avid DV

    For comp with Alpha, render 2nd mov that is alpha only
    Render Settings: DV Settings
    Output Module: Avid DV Alpha

    AE Output Module Settings

    AVID Meridien Comp 2:1 +K Straig
    ———————————————–
    Format: Quicktime Movie
    Output Info: Avid Meridien Compressed, RGB Levels (0-255), NTSC, Resolution: 2:1 Interlaced, Spatial Quality = Most (100)
    Channels: RGB + Alpha
    Depth: Millions of Colors+
    Color: Straight

    AVID DV Alpha
    ———————————————–
    Format: Quicktime Movie
    Output Info: Avid DV, RGB Levels (0-255), Resolution: DV25 NTSC 411, Spatial Quality = Most (100)
    Channels: Alpha
    Depth: Millions of Colors
    Color: Premultiplied

    You can see I convert from the editing YUV color space to RGB colors for compositing and back to YUV when importing back to the editing platform.

    Don’t worry about stuff not looking good on your computer monitor. Your computer monitor is not the best to use for quality control for video. Send the signal out to a Broadcast Monitor from AE using Video Preview to tell if your adjustments are good. Also, AE just isn’t the best keyer out there. Third Party plugins might help.

    -Carolyn

    Carolyn Fusinato
    http://www.fusinatodesign.com

  • Erik

    February 22, 2006 at 7:02 pm

    thanks Carolyn….good to hear from you.. still in Dallas?

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