Video Editing + Coluor correction + Special Effects WORK FLOW

[David Roth weiss]

It’s difficult for any of us to gauge whether your footage really requires adding Resolve to your workflow or not. But, a first glance, I’d say that adding Resolve to your workflow in this case might exponentially increase the complexity of the job. Do you think you can grade in Premiere?

David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor/Colorist & Workflow Consultant
David Weiss Productions
Los Angeles

David is a Creative COW contributing editor and a forum host of the Apple Final Cut Pro forum.

[Firas Sameer]

Thank you david for your reply,

I can do colouring using premeir or after effects but my client insist to use the davinci resolve.. Do you think it is possible?

Thanks

[Walter Soyka]

You’ll have to finish with rendered effects shots. Once you start compositing, you must debayer and make some color decisions, and there’s no way to get back to the raw data for subsequent coloring.

That said, you should bring a “pre-grade” into VFX. Get the look of the plates as close to final as possible, then composite onto those. Try to get the match as close as possible in Ae. This will minimize the amount of correction necessary down the line in Resolve.

Walter Soyka
Designer & Mad Scientist at Keen Live [link]
Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
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[Firas Sameer]

Thank you Walter for your reply, I think in this case it is impossible to use Davinci effectively or at least using it as my client required is useless..

So if I will cancel this case scenario and ask a very related question which is if I want to edit the whole clip in premier but using the Davinci for the raw colouring? forget about having the special effects stage I mean if I have different project without special effects and want to use Davinci for colouring and premier for editing how would the correct effective workflow would be? should I correct all footage before using them in premeir? this will waste lots of time, I know inf FCP I can use the proxy so is there is similar options with premier??

thanks again in advance..

[Walter Soyka]

[Firas Sameer] “Thank you Walter for your reply, I think in this case it is impossible to use Davinci effectively or at least using it as my client required is useless..”

You can use Resolve for grading. You’ll just have to grade the VFX shots from renders instead of from camera masters.

[Firas Sameer] “So if I will cancel this case scenario and ask a very related question which is if I want to edit the whole clip in premier but using the Davinci for the raw colouring? forget about having the special effects stage I mean if I have different project without special effects and want to use Davinci for colouring and premier for editing how would the correct effective workflow would be? should I correct all footage before using them in premeir? this will waste lots of time, I know inf FCP I can use the proxy so is there is similar options with premier??”

The traditional workflow is edit & lock picture in editorial, then conform, grade, output in color.

Walter Soyka
Designer & Mad Scientist at Keen Live [link]
Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
@keenlive   |   RenderBreak [blog]   |   Profile [LinkedIn]

[David Roth weiss]

And, the reason the workflow Walter mentions is traditionally the standard is that it’s the most efficient workflow, with the fewest points of potential failure.

Doing a “one light” pass to color correct dailies in advance of editing is done all the time, then when the picture is locked, the color correction or addition of a LUT can either be kept on all clips or deleted at the grader’s discretion.

David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor/Colorist & Workflow Consultant
David Weiss Productions
Los Angeles

David is a Creative COW contributing editor and a forum host of the Apple Final Cut Pro forum.

[Firas Sameer]

“The traditional workflow is edit & lock picture in editorial, then conform, grade, output in color.”

I think you miss understood me as I wanted to color grade and correct using davinci not premier .. what I understood from your last reply is only what is related to premier .. am I right? otherwise I would appreciate more details to realise where is the missing point I am having..

thanks

[Walter Soyka]

[Firas Sameer] “I think you miss understood me as I wanted to color grade and correct using davinci not premier .. what I understood from your last reply is only what is related to premier .. am I right? otherwise I would appreciate more details to realise where is the missing point I am having..”

You edit in Premiere, then export an EDL/XML/AAF when you’re done.

Then, in Resolve, you conform. You import the EDL/XML/AAF plus original media, color grade, then output.

Walter Soyka
Designer & Mad Scientist at Keen Live [link]
Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
@keenlive   |   RenderBreak [blog]   |   Profile [LinkedIn]

[Firas Sameer]

great, and which format “EDL/XML/AAF” is the best option to export to?

[Firas Sameer]

I did tried exporting the XML from within premier and did work well, I do not know the difference actually or which one is better but I will use this xml ..

Thank you all for helping me …

regards