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  • VIdeo Data Rate

    Posted by Richard Martz on November 8, 2005 at 4:47 am

    Dear Friends:

    A few weeks ago I was looking for data rates for various forms of video including some forms of HD. I needed this to determine if my planned storage medium would be enough for a project I contemplated doing. I could not find it anywhere and could not find anyone here on this post that could help either. So I determined to find the answer. I’ve assembled the following information for fellow byteheads:

    Video Data rates

    PhotoJPEG

    Craig Seeman replied 20 years, 5 months ago 5 Members · 7 Replies
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  • Shane Ross

    November 8, 2005 at 5:44 am

    Near the bottom of this page there is a great Data Rate calculator that AJA makes…and it’s FREE!!

    https://www.aja.com/support_kona.html

  • David Roth weiss

    November 8, 2005 at 6:17 am

    Even better is the free VideoSpace Widget available from Digital Heaven that’s free at: https://www.apple.com/downloads/dashboard/calculate_convert/videospace.html

  • Craig Seeman

    November 8, 2005 at 12:26 pm

    DV and HDV are the same data rates. I think you’re confusing Megabits and Megabytes.

  • Gary Adcock

    November 8, 2005 at 2:41 pm

    [Richard Martz] “A few weeks ago I was looking for data rates for various forms of video including some forms of HD. I needed this to determine if my planned storage medium would be enough for a project I contemplated doing. I could not find it anywhere and could not find anyone here on this post that could help either. “

    Richard
    this info is readily available on the web and with tools like the Data Rate Calc available free from AJA. <https://aja.com/ajashare/AJA_Data_Rate_Calculator_v1.1.1.app.zip>

    While your post is full of good info– without the frame rate information for each compression level it will not serve you in the long run. There is not a also mention of how many audio tracks are being captured as part of these setting.
    Example: DVCPRO HD

  • Richard Martz

    November 11, 2005 at 6:44 pm

    DV and HDV are NOT the same data rates.

  • Shane Ross

    November 11, 2005 at 6:59 pm

    As quoted from HD FOR INDIES FAQ:

    https://www.hdforindies.com/2005/05/hd-for-indies-frequently-asked#tapeformats

    DV – 720×480, 8 bits, 4:1:1, 25 megabits/sec aka 3.6 MB/sec w/audio.
    HDV – three formats:
    720p30 at 1280×720, 4:2:0, 8 bits/channel, 19 megabits, how many audio, compressed?
    1080i60 at 1440×1080, 4:2:0, 8 bits/channel, 25 megabits, how many audio?
    ProHD – 720p24/25/30/60 (60 off of camera but not to tape), 1080i yes, 1080p? Audio?

    DV is 25MB/sec. HDV at 1080i is 25MB/sec…and 720P is LESS at 19MB/Sec. In a recent posting here at the Cow Graeme stated that DV compression is 5:1, and HDV compression is 25:1 (larger area to compress to get to 25MB/sec).

  • Craig Seeman

    November 11, 2005 at 7:25 pm

    I second Shane.
    Gary’s additional info is important too.

    There’s a reason why the same transport and guts of a camera can write either DV and HDV to tape (oversimplification, I know) but they ARE the same data rate as far as what’s happening at that point.

    I think people should be required to take a technical test before being allowed to shoot and edit! Hmm, Certification! As a former Video Engineer, the misinformation on the web is amazing. At least make it a requirement to read Adam Wilts’ page.

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