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Video card form system???
We received a new Octocore G5 from the Apple store back in March when they were unable to repair our Quad-core system.
This is a bottom of the line G-5 that was offered at the time and 2.8Ghz Octo with 4GB of Memory(this is the only this they upgraded because they saw we had 4Gig in our other system)
The video card is the standard ATI Raedon HD2600 that comes with the Octo’s.
The edit who has been working on that new system the most keeps saying that the system crashes when he is working in motion.
Is this video card robust enough to handle motion or is this the reason the system is crashing?
Motions minimum system requirements just say “An AGP or PCI Express Quartz Extreme graphics card” and it is a Quartz Extreme card.
The main reason I’m asking is because I am looking at replacing our last remaining duo-core system and I was wondering if this card (ATI Raedon HD2600) is fine or should I spend the money and upgrade to the NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT 512MB [Add $150.00]?
Also we are definitely going to upgrade to 4GB of memory.
Is there an advantage getting it from Apple for $500 or is the stuff I buy from Crucial.com (for around $200) just as good?
Steve Cohen
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8 Replies
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Sorry for the double post, my system was acting strange.
Steve Cohen
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[Steve Cohen] “We received a new Octocore G5 from the Apple store back in March when they were unable to repair our Quad-core system. “
A small point: your system is a Mac Pro (Intel), not a G5 (PowerPC). G5s are no longer made.
[Steve Cohen] “I am looking at replacing our last remaining duo-core system and I was wondering if this card (ATI Raedon HD2600) is fine or should I spend the money and upgrade to the NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT 512MB [Add $150.00]? “
If you upgrade, don’t get the nVidia. Get the ATI Radeon HD 3870. Its performance is superior to the nVidia card in Core Image applications like Motion. The nVidia is a better gaming card, but not as good as the 3870 for the Pro Apps.
https://eshop.macsales.com/item/ATI%20Technologies/100435928/
Performance details here:
https://www.barefeats.com/harper16.html
As for RAM upgrades, there is no advantage to buying Apple RAM. Buy from Crucial or Ramjet and save a bundle.
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ATI Avivo Video Post Processor
Color space conversion
Chroma subsampling format conversion
Horizontal and vertical scaling
Gamma correction
Advanced vector adaptive per-pixel de-interlacing
De-blocking and noise reduction filtering
Detail enhancement
Inverse telecine (2:2 and 3:2 pull-down correction)
Bad edit correction
Note that last feature: BAD EDIT CORRECTION. Man, where was THAT when I was learning how to make a director happy?
bogiesan
This is my standard sigfile so do not take it personally: “For crying out loud, read the freakin’ manual.”
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Thanks for the info Alan and David.
The ATI RADEON 3870 is not offered by the Apple store and I think I’m going to have a hard enough time convincing the powers that be to go with third party RAM let alone a third party video card.
As far as the ATI Radeon HD 2600 XT 256MB that Apple offers standard should that be sufficient or is that possibly why my other editor is complaining that the system crashes when he uses motion?
Thanks again;
Steve Cohen
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Motion has always crashed for me no matter what video card I use.
is there something specific he’s using when it crashes?
Any card that comes with an Apple computer should be Motion compatible.
Jeremy
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[david bogie] “Note that last feature: BAD EDIT CORRECTION. Man, where was THAT when I was learning how to make a director happy?”
Wouldn’t have worked, Bogiesan. Not unless it’s installed in the director!
Arnie
Post production is not an afterthought!
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[Steve Cohen] “The ATI RADEON 3870 is not offered by the Apple store and I think I’m going to have a hard enough time convincing the powers that be to go with third party RAM let alone a third party video card.
“No one in their right mind buys RAM from Apple. The exact same chips, usually from Crucial/Micron, are one half or less from any online source.
Macintosh, just like a PC, is just a box with some commodity parts in it. You can put anything in the box you want. Apple sells parts through the Apple store only because they’ve been extensively tested in only a few limited configurations and Apple can make a decent profit offering only a limited selection.
The best products for your editing rig are from third party suppliers including speakers, tape decks, FW bus expansion cards, RAID controllers, external drives, some displays, keyboards, mice, graphics tablets, &c. None of these things are actually made by Apple but I’m sure your powers that be would have no hesitation buying them and hooking them up to your Mac.
bogiesan
This is my standard sigfile so do not take it personally: “For crying out loud, read the freakin’ manual.”
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I agree with you, I’m just dealing with corporate suite that don’t understand that parts are parts and most of the time third party are just as good if not better.
I thought that memory used to be an issue if it was not Apple memory, but that may have been before the Intel chips.
Thanks again everyone.
Steve Cohen
Editor
O2 Media Inc.
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