vertical video monitors

[Mylenium]

You do all your stuff in a vertical comp and then nest it and rotate it back into a standard horizontal comp. There’s no magic there as the underlaying siganl processing doesn’t change and you still have to use standard formats for actually delivering the content.

Mylenium

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[Mel Bernstine]

thanks … do these pillar-like monitors all accept video coming from dvd players? In there some common aspect ratio for them? If I make the composition in AE like you said, and export it in a Pal-DV format, how do I make sure that the actual content (as opposed to the empty part of the frames) falls squarely in the monitor instead of outside? thanks again.

[Mel Bernstine]

ps:

If someone speaks of a 1:1 scale monitor do you know what that means?
Any suggestions for actual size to use in AE to format comp for these kinds of monitors?

thanks

[Straight A]

Unless the monitor is something uniquie like a very long vertical strip – it will simply be a normal 16:9 monitor on its side.

[Mel Bernstine]

what if it is one of these long strip type of monitors that you see more and more used in displays in stores and conventions?

[Bob Bonniol]

This is nothing more than a standard 16:9 monitor used in a rotated position. My studio makes media for this monitor configuration constantly. Do exactly what Mylenium suggested: create a comp in AE that is either 1080 wide by 1920 high (if the monitors are HD) then bring this comp into a new comp and turn it 90 degrees clockwise (almost all standard flatscreens are turned 90 degrees counter clockwise when mounted vertically). Or, if the monitor is standard def (very likely) than we usually just author in an SD anamorphic resolution (720 x 480 with 1.2 pixel aspect ratio) and turn our heads to the side to see what we are doing. The problem with creating the SD res in a vertical precomp is dealing with the way AE (and most other apps) use widescreen pixel aspect ratio (which does not translate to being turned sideways).

So put simply, create media in a normal SD widescreen comp, but create it all sideways ! It’s just really as simple as that. It does involve you ‘thinking’ sodeways, and composing media to look good in that way, but thats not so very hard…

Best,
Bob Bonniol

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[Bob Bonniol]

I just needed to touch back on this after reading your other posts: There is NO magic to making sure your signal fits the monitor. If you make media for a 16:9 aspect ratio monitor in it’s normal position (sideways), and then if you physically go and turn the monitor 90 degrees, what would happen ? Do you see ? Your signal wouldn’t remain sideways… It doesn’t know or care which way the monitor is hung… So the signal from a DVD to monitor is consistant this way. it is YOU that must compose your media KNOWING that it will end up on it’s side…

I really hope this helps… It’s pretty simple in the end.

Best,
Bob Bonniol

MODE Studios
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[Mel Bernstine]

thanks a million for the comprehensive and simple answer …

a last question … what are those monitors that you see around that are more than 16/9 widescreens turned sideways but look like vertical pillars? I saw them used in a Louis Vuitton store.

[Bob Bonniol]

The monitors in the Louis Vitton store that you saw are Barco 3mm iLite LED panels in custom configurations. Very nice… Very Expensive ! My friends at Scharff Weisberg Inc in NYC collaborated with Barco in their installation I think…

Dealing with that sort of monitor is a whole different ball of wax. Custom resolution MPEG playback with special front end processing…

Cheers,
Bob

MODE Studios
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Contributing Editor, Entertainment Design Magazine
Art of the Edit Forum Leader
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[Mel Bernstine]

any idea how that would be set up in AE?
and then how it would be delivered to the monitors?

thanks again.