Verdict: FCP X & El Capitan?

[John Davidson]

Just wait. I’ve had some weird mouse issues and things like that.

John Davidson | President / Creative Director | Magic Feather Inc.

[Dennis Radeke]

Give me one compelling reason to upgrade to it? (I know of one possible reason for some people)…

[Nick Toth]

So far I have seen no issues other than the wonky timecode display in the dashboard. I have worked on a couple of small projects with no problems.

Things I have noticed:

Promise Pegasus2 is 100 MB/sec faster both read and write. I have done nothing except update FCP X and OSX.

Application and projects open faster.

Relinking is much faster.

All of my plug-ins work fine so far. I do not use AU plug-ins in FCP X so that is not an issue for me.

Next week I will be pushing harder and see if I find anything.

[Rich Rubasch]

Might want to read this first….

https://www.zdnet.com/article/os-x-10-11-el-capitan-bugs-bugs-and-more-bugs/

Rich Rubasch
Tilt Media Inc.
Video Production, Post, Studio Sound Stage
Founder/President/Editor/Designer/Animator
https://www.tiltmedia.com

[Dennis Radeke]

This is the key quote in the article for me and why I am steering clear of it for the time being.

“There’s a good chance that I could be lucky and dodge (or at least work around) any issues I encounter, but quite honestly I can’t find anything new in El Capitan that’s worth potentially wreaking a working system over.”

BTW – the one reason to potentially upgrade is if you’re using 10bit material and want to output without 3rd party i/o cards. It sounds like that is in there for El Capitan.

[Mitch Ives]

[Dennis Radeke] “Give me one compelling reason to upgrade to it? (I know of one possible reason for some people)…
“

Well, for one… the current Apple wireless keyboard and wireless mouse require it.

Second, it’s a much more responsive OS. We have it on some non-FCP X machines and it’s notable.

Third, the cursor enlargement feature is handy for finding your cursor on multiple monitor systems, or very large monitors with darker interfaces like FCP X or Premiere.

Fourth, speed increases on disk arrays, as has been reported here.

Let’s face it, there are some serious under-the-hood changes here, and many companies like Microsoft have been a bit derelict in their duties in terms of taking it seriously. I’m surprised that as the Adobe guy that your team hasn’t embraced it. CC runs much quicker on a nMP with El Capitan. Even a MacBook Air runs better with it.

The surprising part for me is that the FCP X guys weren’t ready for this. I mean you guys are on the same team, right?

Mitch Ives
Insight Productions Corp.

“Criticism may not be agreeable, but it is necessary. It fulfills the same function as pain in the human body. It calls attention to an unhealthy state of things.” – Winston Churchill

[Mitch Ives]

[Rich Rubasch] “Might want to read this first….

https://www.zdnet.com/article/os-x-10-11-el-capitan-bugs-bugs-and-more-bugs/“

It’s probably just me, but I didn’t find that article particularly useful. I do appreciate your posting it though. All information is worth considering.

First, he says wait for the next release… well its out already.

Second, he really gave no specifics as to any issues he’s found. I’m guessing it’s because he was a beta tester, under an NDA and doesn’t want to ruin the relationship? I can understand that.

We’re having no issues on any of the regular machines and see plenty of advantages. I haven’t installed it on any of the FCP X machines because they’re all in the middle of projects. One is about finished, which is why I created this post.

It appears that well just have to stop buying new machines and wireless input devices until it seems like FCP X has caught up to it?

Mitch Ives
Insight Productions Corp.

“Criticism may not be agreeable, but it is necessary. It fulfills the same function as pain in the human body. It calls attention to an unhealthy state of things.” – Winston Churchill

[Bret Williams]

The FCP X guys were probably working on El Capitan!

I clean installed El Capitan and have been giving it a whirl on a separate drive. An old G raid eSATA drive hooked up to my iMac via a USB 3 to eSATA cable. Takes a bit longer to load than the fusion drive in the iMac, but after that I can’t tell the difference.

It definitely has been a stabler, faster system than Yosemite. The only bug I’ve found so far is the timecode window bug and really, who cares about that one. All the other stuff I’ve heard of I’ve seen none of. But I haven’t given my big plugins a whirl yet. mFlare, mObject, that sort of stuff. But slicex seems ok. Universe seems to work fine. Color Finale works (but I haven’t done much with it).

Performance wise everything seems quicker and more responsive, BUT, my Yosemite install was getting pretty funky and I was just waiting on El Capitan to do a clean install instead of redoing Yosemite. Maybe I had some bad fonts or something. But I’ve been installing stuff on a need only basis and the system runs much better.

The Pegasus R4 (TB 1) seems to run faster with write speeds off the charts and read speeds around 370.

[Mitch Ives]

[Bret Williams] “The FCP X guys were probably working on El Capitan! “

LOL… I love a good chuckle.

Thanks for the info. I’ll be putting it on a system in a week. I’ll test the Pegasus R2 before and after as well. Since it hasn’t really created any issues with any other programs, I was mostly thinking it would come down to FCP X plugins. The timecode display is curious… not sure how the FCP X guys didn’t notice that, since everyone else seems to have?

Mitch Ives
Insight Productions Corp.

“Criticism may not be agreeable, but it is necessary. It fulfills the same function as pain in the human body. It calls attention to an unhealthy state of things.” – Winston Churchill

[Bret Williams]

I’m guessing the TC thing is just a system font issue. I’ve seen a few iPhone apps go wonky too because likely they were designed to fit a specific space with a specific font size and utilize the system font, so Apple changes it ever so slightly and oops!

But honestly, if you don’t know which field is hours and which is frames, etc….