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George Dean
February 20, 2019 at 4:54 pmAlberto, can you upload a sample clip from your Hero 7. Something like 2-3 seconds to keep the file size down should be adequate.
As far as I know the footage from the Hero 7 HEVC to DNx would have to be converted, so the time and process of converting the source media is a concern to get the fastest and easiest method in batch mode.
In the past I have used Vegas and Resolve to batch convert source media to DNx, but there are other programs that probably can do it. I’m thinking maybe something like ER Media Tool Kit. If you want to upload a short clip I can tinker around trying different methods.
Also Ole may have some suggestions.
By the way, Avid DNx codec requires Quicktime qt7plug.dll, which is an unsupported 32 bit program that Apple does not support in Windows. One of the long standing issues with DNx is the limitation to load more than about 40 clips in the timeline when Vegas will normally fail. So if we keep the number of unique clips in a project at about 40 or below, no problem. If we load more than 40, sometimes 41, 42, 45, 47, etc. then Vegas will most likely fail and either lock-up, hang and/or crash.
Best Regards……George
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Ole Kristiansen
February 21, 2019 at 9:59 amI also considered Scripting Batch Render in Vegas Pro and the ER Media Tool Kit!
The disadvantage of the ER Media Tool Kit – if it will convert Gopro Hero 7 2704×2032 HEVC 59,940p –
then it cannot do so in 2704×2032! It then becomes 1920×1080 – losing the opportunity
to zoom without quality loss on a 1920×1080 timeline!The advantage of converting to DNxHR in Vegas Pro is that you can Render DNxHR out in 2704×2032 59.940p
Alberto writes: …. reducing the abnormal loading time in Vegas Pro – it may be a problem!If Alberto can live with that 2704×2032 HEVC 59,940p is converted to 1920×1080 59,940p DNxHD
then it is easiest if the ER Media Tool Kit will convert the recordings!ER Media Toolkit is easy to use – just drag the footage into the program!
Use DNxHD.mov!You can download ER Media Toolkit here:
https://audiospot.audio/audiospot-creativetools
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PS7nWFuJs5o&feature=youtu.be
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Alberto Poli
February 22, 2019 at 2:21 pmGeorge here is a sample video in 2.7k from my Hero7!
Thank you Ole, I’ll take some time to check and try everything!
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Ole Kristiansen
February 22, 2019 at 2:55 pmYou can convert your footage with ER Media Tool Kit – but it will be 1920×1080 DNxHD !
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Ole Kristiansen
February 22, 2019 at 3:56 pmHere is your footage convert with ER Media Tool Kit – and Sony Vegas pro 13 – to DNxHD and DNxHR
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4SSRY2lOEE&feature=youtu.be
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Alberto Poli
February 22, 2019 at 4:13 pmwow that was so helpful Ole! it looks like the ideal solution!
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George Dean
February 22, 2019 at 7:21 pmAlberto, if you would like batch rendering scripts that work in Vegas Pro 16, I have them. I use 3 scripts, the 1st marks each clip on a track with regions and names those regions the same as the clip name (without the extension). The 2nd scripts rendering those regions using the region name to the template of your choice. The 3rd scripts removes the regions.
I used to throw 5-10 clips on to a track and at time and use these scripts to render out to intermediates like DNx. I’m sure Ole has done the same.
Best Regards……George
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Ole Kristiansen
February 22, 2019 at 8:09 pmAs George Dean has mentioned, it takes you to install Quicktime and then the DNx codecs
to work in Vegas Pro! Another good codec for Vegas pro – is Cineform! I have made a
short video showing how to batch render to Cineform with the program Virtualdub2!Download Virtualdub2 here:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/vdfiltermod/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhCQDfc8XyU&feature=youtu.be
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George Dean
February 22, 2019 at 10:24 pmAlberto, as Ole suggest you can also use the Cineform codec, which although considered to be visually lossless, isn’t as lossless as DNx, but will run smooth as DNx, but has other advantages.
1st it doesn’t require the 32 bit Quicktime Component to run in Vegas. 2nd It is a considerable smaller files size than DNx.
Using a tool made by Wayne Wwaag called Render Quality Metric, which compares the quality loss from the original when rendered out I recently made these comparisons
Original Source was 1920×1080-59.940p DNxHD 422 10 bit, Bit Rate 440 MB/s, files size 628 Mib
RQM reveled these ratings to a Cineform and DNx render…….(note, the lower the MSR value and the higher the PSNR value, the less quality lost
Cineform Filmscan 1, MSR = 1.369, PSNR = 46.766, Bit Rate = 189 MB/s, file size = 268 MiB
DNxHD HD 220 422 10 bit, MSR = .501, PSNR = 51.136, Bit Rate = 440 MB/s, file size = 620 MiBKeep in mind even though Cineform doesn’t retain as much quality as DNx, this comparison is against 4:2:2 10 bit source, which is considerably higher than your source which is 4:2:0 8 bit and I would think there would be less loss between these two options.
BTW, to get the Cineform codec download and install the GoPro Studio program. The program is of little use, but when installed it also install the Cineform codec, which is free via the GoPro Studio app. Of course always close Vegas when installing a codec. The Cineform render format and templates will be found in the ‘Video for Windows’ and Cineform uses the .avi container.
Nice tutorial Ole on using the VirtualDub2.
Best Regards……George
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Ole Kristiansen
February 24, 2019 at 4:47 pm“Nice tutorial Ole on using the VirtualDub2.” Thank You George Dean !
Maybe it was a bad advice! In Virtualdub2 you can only trancode to .avi
when you Batch Render – it doesn’t seem like my computer and Vegas Pro –
like Cineform.avi from Virualdub2! Cineform.mov is ok!You can also use Davinci Resolve to transcode recordings!
I have the full version Studio – it can easily handle HEVC recordings!
Don’t know about Davinci Resolve Free! The good thing about Davinci Resolve:With the release of DaVinci Resolve 12.5.1.
on Aug 11, 2016It adds ProRes decoding on Windows and no longer requires QuickTime 7 for Windows.
So Windows users can now run Resolve without installing QuickTime. Trimming and
multicam performance is also improved as DaVinci Resolve 12.5.1 now uses its own
native 64-bit code to read and write .mov files.Best,
Olehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Vjfvpo6oR0&feature=youtu.be
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