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Vegas Outputing H264.mov
Does anyone know the reason why Vegas prohibits you from accessing H264
in quicktime for .mov output files? Will this be corrected in the future.. Unfortunately that’s what practically all of my clients want for their demo reels…and the client is always right. It would be nice to do it in Vegas instead of having to use quicktime pro or cleaner on the pc and screw up the gamma…. K -
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You would have to ask the Vegas developers why. You might want to send an email to Sony Support. I agree that this is most unfortunate and I was shocked as well when all of my other applications picked up the h.264 codec from my Quicktime Pro except Vegas. 🙁
~jr
http://www.johnrofrano.com
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Sorry, as a ‘newbie’ to this forum, I’m missing something here in translation? You saying that even if you pay for QTPro (extra $29), you (meaning me) am not going to be able to use H264.mov for output in Vegas Video ??? In 9.0c I see a Quicktime .mov file format, I rendered to it last night and it doesn’t run on QT on my Windows 7 box, but I assume that it is H.264. (I transferred it to my Mac and it runs fine in QT, so something isn’t right on my Windows box (I’ve not paid for Quicktime yet on the Win7 box).
So is that not correct? I’ve not needed to render to that format, so not clear here whether it runs on my iPod/iPhone. I’ve not transferred it to the Iphone yet. But it seems that 9.0c does in fact output to H.264 just fine, and runs in Quicktime. In fact, it looks better on my Mac than on my Windows machine in any other format I output it in! Seems that it is using core 4 and core 1 over 2 and 3 for reasons I don’t understand. Playback using about 15% of core CPU.
So with all due respect, what don’t I understand about your post?
Alf
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what you would do is… when you choose quicktime you would then choose the button CUSTOM. Then you would choose the drop down arrow for VIDEO FORMAT. Here you would normally choose H264 and set up your size etc. But H264 is missing.. so you can probably choose mpeg-4 video. I think that might work.. but you notice that they block H264.in quicktime. Why???? I don’t know. Otherwise you would have to create another type of quicktime and do the conversion in qt pro etc.
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Is that true also if you purchase the upgrade to QT Pro? I have it on my Mac, but have not yet purchased it for my Win7 machine. The reason I wonder is that the QT Pro web site claims you can encode to X.264 with the upgrade to Pro.
https://www.apple.com/quicktime/pro/
Wonder if that is how Sony intends to handle it… I would like some ‘official’ guidance from Sony on this. I’ll undoubtably run into this sooner than later myself. I guess for the time being, the method is to encode out to MPEG-4 and then use QTPro to convert?????? Wonder what you lose???
Alf
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> I guess for the time being, the method is to encode out to MPEG-4 and then use QTPro to convert?????? Wonder what you lose???
A LOT! The MPEG4 option in QT is old technology and once you choose it your video will never be as good as the h.264 option. If you need h.264 in QT you should render out of Vegas in a lossless codec and bring the file into QT Pro to encode it there. Otherwise use the Sony AVC format to create an mp4 file which plays back fine in QT.
~jr
http://www.johnrofrano.com
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Thanks! Internet posting is often less than perfect. Your reply is actually what I was trying to say. Render in V.V. lossless and then convert in QTPro. Thanks for clarifying this. I’ll try this on a snippet today to make sure I understand how it all comes together. Let’s hope Sony will license this from Apple. Given that we are paying top dollar for this product, I wouldn’t mind getting all the codecs native to the package.
Alf
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Let’s hope Sony will license this from Apple.
You may have put your finger on the problem. I suspect that, if Sony has to pay a fee to Apple to use the codec even though it is already on the machine, it’s not going to happen. If you think you are paying top dollar for Vegas, you should check the price of Final Cut Pro. Vegas, by comparison, is a bargain.
A similar situation has existed in Windows for years. MS will use the mpeg2 codec if it’s on your machine, but it is not supplied with Windows because MS will not pay the fee.
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> Let’s hope Sony will license this from Apple. Given that we are paying top dollar for this product, I wouldn’t mind getting all the codecs native to the package.
OK, I just tried this and it seems to work. Since you already have paid for the MainConcept h.264 and the Sony AVC h.264 codecs, I thought maybe Quicktime would be smart enough to use the h.264 in these files. It turns out that I rendered rendered using the Sony AVC codec as an mp4, then opened the mp4 file in Quicktime Pro and choose Save As | Self-contained movie. It simply copied the h.264 video into a mov wrapper. No re-encoding.
So you can use the Sony AVC codec and just rewrarp it with Quicktime Pro. Of course, this is not the same as using the Quicktime h.264 codec which may or may not be different quality but at least it yields an h.264 mov file.
~jr
http://www.johnrofrano.com
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Thx very much for running this down. Looks like a FAQ to remember.
Alf
Panasonic HMC-150 & Vegas Video 9.0c on Win7/64bit
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