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Vegas needs/suggestions for MAGIX to hear!!
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1-Improve stability. BOTH Vegas 12 & 13 (& #10)often crash during 10 hour+ blu ray renders. It sometimes require DAYS to be successful. And this is on a HP z800 with dual quadcores and 72GB ram. I finally built fresh computers with fresh Win 7 pro and driver updates with lots of ram & ssds. I now have perhaps 20 to 25% render to bluray success.
2-support modern graphic cards for rendering improvements. 14 hours to render a 2 hour bluray on a computer like above is very poor. (graphic cards tried include several differend NVidia quadro like quadro 2000 for example. Minimal improvement if any. I loath ATI cards due to unstable drivers which when combined with #1 severely increases stress levels. I have built two different machines with fresh loads of windows 7 pro, 16-64 GB ram, SSD drives and various video cards (mostly NVidia for stability). some with antivirus, some without. Typical 2 hour 2K blueray takes 10-14 hours which is one attempt a day. sometimes I can do two if it crashes soon enough.
2b- look at Handbrake for fast rendering & transcoding ability
3-once #1 & #2 fixed, then support 4K to bluray disks
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I’ve found that with the GPU support switched off, Vegas 13 is pretty stable for me with only an occasional crash. Besides, I could never see any perceptible benefit. Nor know anyone who has. Could be my particular GPU.
I’m with Dave that the area of rendering is where serious work is needed. As for me, most of my output is MP4. I have to use the frameserver to Handbrake workaround to get acceptable results. Or render a gigantic AVI and convert it. Or settle for a fuzzy MP4.
Vegas Pro is by far the most intuitive interface of any NLE I have used. There are some dated and clunky bits, and the titler is not what it should be. I think it says a lot that people continue to stick with Vegas Pro, in spite of these shortcomings. If just the render issues can be resolved alone, it would be a huge step.
Joe Mizera
Mizera Digital
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I agree with the fuzzy MP4 issue, wish I understood your workaround.
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Sorry I just saw this. It’s at my workplace, will try when I return.
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Z800 with an NVQ2000 is not what I would concider a Vegas class machine. I am not really sure what you build that machine to do, but it was not built with Vegas in mind.
Dump the Z800 and get a Gen4-i7, Gen5 or even a skylake system, and that would cut your workflow time in half.
As far a AMD drivers being unstable, this is likely due to poor system design choices and possibly to attempting to run NVQ cards with AMD.
I have found AMD XT (X series) drivers to be extreamly stable with VP13-B453 with GPU enabled. The GPU is not going to help much with straight file render to MPEG2 or MP4. The GPU will help with decompression of certain codec types, and timeline frame effects before hitting the encoder to output to file. Some have said that there may be some predictive compuation done by OpenCL at the encoder, but this is probubly completed so fast that the GPU looks unloaded. GPU support in Vegas is like adding a second processor to your machine that excels at very specific types of math. The OpenCL hybrid combintation of GPU+CPU compute units greatly exceeds the capabilities of even the most modern stand alone xeon + skylake processors. You are talking about MFLOPs at the CPU level, and TFLOPs at the GPU level.
If you are attempting to operate Vegas on a laptop computer, when you do not absolutely need the portability, you are holding yourself back. Laptops are designed to be under powered, and miser energy to extend battery life. Laptop GPUs may have the same numeric designations, but the actual GFLOPs (processing power) are night and day between a desktop card.
See my post above about includeing a diagnostics page for Vegas, as this would inclusion would rule out probubly 50% of peoples systems that are trying to run Vegas.
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This is a super simple suggestion, so simple that I’m sure there are probably a dozen other ways to achieve this, but since I’ve been using the same script since Vegas 4 or 6, I’ve always made it the first thing I add after a fresh install and never looked for a better way. Now this seems like a no-brainer but Vegas couldn’t do it when I started using it so I downloaded a script called SelectEventsFromCursor. Wherever you are on the timeline, regardless of how many clips may be at where your cursor is, or if there are no events there but there are more past it, you simply select all of them from the cursor forward. Then you can drag them around, mash them up against the clips before them, or if you just want the video and keep the audio that’s underneath where it is, just deselect that track and continue moving. I have mine bound to Ctrl+w and probably hit it about 50-100 times a day.
It’s like changing to the Selection Edit Tool, zooming all the way out on your timeline and selecting everything from the cursor forward, except a heck of a lot faster.
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Favorite folder for Video FX, Transitions, Media Generators
There is no favorite folder that would make the life easier for handle the hundreds of Vegas effects, etc.
Currently I use an workaround creating a folder in the plug-in chooser window, but that window isn’t friendly as the main/searchable window for Video FX, Transitions, Media Generators. Another shortcoming for this workaround is that you can’t see the preview thumbnails.
Looking forward to seeing new Vegas, and maybe this improvement!
Carlos
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Make “View>Edit Details” available in Vegas Movie Studio too.
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Faster search for Video FX, Transitions and Media Generators
In each Vegas session the first search for Video FX, Transitions and Media Generators takes forever. You type in the search box and can go to grab a coffee before your search is listed! This slow search could happen once, considering some elements are external plugins, etc. After that, Vegas should create a kind of cache, avoiding delays when searching first time in each session.
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Improve Vegas “Media Manager”
Since 2011 it isn’t updated. It is a handy to, but underdeveloped. Here there is an extensive discussion on possibilities to “Media Manager”:
https://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/forums/showmessage.asp?messageid=503818
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