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  • vegas for High End Work

    Posted by Rosh Kadri on September 14, 2007 at 3:01 am

    Hello, my first post and i always wondered about this.

    Can vegas be used to edit theatrical features. I’m talking about doing a full online in vegas and doing a film out.

    1. is this possible, or would the timeline have to be sent out to something like AE for final CCING, titles etc?

    2. my understading is that filmouts are usually cineon and dpx files. vegas does not offer this?

    3.Is the credit roll generator in vegas considered a joke to be projected on the big screen?

    4.Now that vegas is 32bit processing, is it doable to do final CCING in it before a filmout?

    very curious. thanks

    Rosh Kadri replied 18 years, 8 months ago 4 Members · 5 Replies
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  • Douglas Spotted eagle

    September 14, 2007 at 1:02 pm

    Sure it can. Film out and all.
    Stan Harrington has won at least 50-60 awards with a couple of his films done entirely in Vegas, surround sound etc.
    the credit roll generator isn’t a “joke” on a big screen, but the credit roll generator may not be the formatting you’d like. You can easily use either of the other two titling tools found in Vegas (I’ve never seriously used the roll generator) or you can use a third party app.
    C/C is fine in Vegas, only Color or DaVinci-similar app is going to be significantly better.
    Vegas does not do DPX or Cineon output, but most film transfer labs would prefer uncompressed QT or similar anyway.

  • Rosh Kadri

    September 14, 2007 at 9:47 pm

    thanks spot. the reason i mentioned the credit roll generator as a joke only cause many users complain about having to add motion blur to get it to “look” smooth. if its jerky during editing, surely it will be jerky on the big screen.

    what makes color better than vegas now that vegas can handle 32bit color?

    why would one want to export an uncompressed file, even though they edited using something compressed like dv?. how is this beneficial since we started out compressed?

    thanks very much

  • Joe Carney

    September 14, 2007 at 10:37 pm

    To save a little space you could use the lossless sheer QT codec. Still need serious IO though.

    BTW Spot, welcome back, glad to see you here!!

    Joe C.

  • Seth Estrada

    September 15, 2007 at 2:37 am

    If you are referring to an offline edit that will be matched back to film, then you will not (probably) be exporting the final picture-locked edit from your DV footage; you will either be using DV as your low res proxy files, and replacing them with your full res scans (possibly 1080 or 2k?), or you will be exporting the EDL from your offline edit to have your negative cut elsewhere. In either case, timecode will be the make or break of your workflow, and that has a lot more to do with who is making your low res dubs than the NLE package you are using. Vegas will handle timecode just fine, as long as your proxy timecode corresponds to your full res timecode when you conform your project for online.

    If you are doing an offline and exporting an EDL to have a negative cut, then know that the only work that your online editor will see is your edits (cuts, crossfades), not your effects, though they may come in handy as a reference for whoever is doing your color grading/visual FX later on.

    Which were you referring to? A purely digital workflow, or film matchback?
    -seth

  • Rosh Kadri

    September 15, 2007 at 3:35 am

    sorry i should have been more clear. im talking a digital workflow in which the footage is HD. Like spot mentioned, a quicktime file can be exported for the filmout, possibly with the sheer codec.

    so the question should read more like. can you do an online HD edit using vegas?

    before doing the filmout—will vegas’s title tools, color correcters, and credit roll generator stand to the task or will it have to be done somewhere else, say AE?

    and please clear up for me if its a good idea to use vegas for a filmout in the first place, since we’re working in an RGB space

    thanks

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