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  • Vegas for Film and Broadcast?

    Posted by Ben Edwards on November 16, 2010 at 4:41 pm

    Just read a very positive review of Vegas at https://www.solovj.com/sony-vegas-pro-for-documentary-post-production, but at the end it did say:

    “Vegas Pro isn’t without its shortcomings. It’s missing broadcast specification features that in principle, preclude it as a tool for delivering to major network broadcast (but it seems broadcasters have had to relax some of these standards due to the plethora of content being created). It may require having third party apps prep your content for delivery so be aware of that when using Vegas Pro for potential delivery to major broadcast venues or to film.”

    I have been using Vegas for a couple of years and really like it (I have used Avid and FCP before). I am thinking of doing a MA im Media and Culture and am wondering if I should give FCP/Avid another try. I know this is a Vegas Forum so I am guessing people here may be a little bias;). I will therefore phrase my question upside down. In what situations would people think of not using Vegas (I am guessing Avid/FCP would be the alternatives). Bear in mind I am planing on making my living as an editor, cameraman and freelance film-maker.

    Now to light the blue touch paper and retreat to a safe distance:).

    All thoughts welcome.

    Ben

    Paul James chatman replied 15 years, 6 months ago 3 Members · 2 Replies
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  • Al Bergstein

    November 17, 2010 at 3:23 am

    Without specifics as to what he/she meant by that comment, it’s hard to know. There are definitely broadcast quality people on this board. So it may be just ignorance of the product. Many writers these days don’t know squat about what they write about. It’s endemic.

    I have two machines, hooked up to the same monitor. I choose the machine that does the job for me given the requirements, and I can tell you, I rely on Vegas way more than FCP for simple documentary needs. I started on both at about the same time, so this isn’t just familiarity. Just try transcoding Canon T2i MOV files on a state of the art FCP platform vs. Neoscene and Vegas. My latest tests, done this week, was 3 hours on FCP dual quad core Mac Pro to take the SAME footage to ProRes LT vs. 33 minutes on a 4 Core Vegas Win7 64 bit box…I was DONE editing the project by the time the transcode finished on FCP…case closed for me.

    It’s not to say that FCP isn’t *better* for certain projects. But these are TOOLS. Make sure you understand your requirements, and the world you work in. Maybe you work with lots of others who have FCP. Maybe you work with lots of dense animation. Then you might logically choose a different tool. Do your own tests, if you can with your work. If you work alone, as I do. It’s all about the speed of the tool to do the job.

    These are tools, not religious artifacts.

    Alf

  • Paul James chatman

    November 19, 2010 at 9:33 am

    You pretty hit the nail, when you said that broadcasters and film makers are getting lax on the format standards. This is very true. I personally see the Standards issue to be a conspricay to get to folks buy all the expensive software, harware and labor associoated with all the “Standards”. Besides, look at all the award winning films and shows and stuff that use non-standard formats and delivery -they still get released to the public.

    Please, the Internet pretty much changed the Standards game with regard how videos, TV, and film are both made (edited) and delivered to it’s audience. In my opinion, anyway.

    We don’t live in that world where everything is as one person or organization says anymore (OTD*). Microsoft and many others tried that, and it failed. Windows may be evry PC in the store, but it (thanksfully) it still not the only option out there. Apple wants their i-everything to be..everything…but it’s not. Not when there are others that do it so much better (Blackberry Playbook anyone?? HELL YEAH!!!!!!). We have choices, and lots of them, so it is with format standards.

    So as far as Vegas Pro is concerned, the NLE should NOT MATTER, as long as you can get your work to screen or tube. In the long run, and quite ultimately, the viewer could care less how it got there, as long as it is there and worth the price of 50,000 commercial breaks or 15$ a ticket. Or 108.52$ if you bought popcorn and candy.

    Peace ya later! 🙂

    * OTD = open to debate

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