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  • Vegas Designers Should Be Embarrassed…

    Posted by Richard Moskowitz on February 17, 2015 at 10:10 pm

    I have been putting together a home video from VHS to DVD for a neighbor. Everything works great, up until it’s time to render. Video is perfectly in sync with audio while playing in preview, but upon rendering, it screws it up! I have scoured and applied countless fixes, suggestions, and options from this website(and many others). I have tried at least 11 different rendering options with and without matching the source video parameters with only one result, VEGAS IS VERY UNTRUSTWORTHY!! The d**n video still comes out with the audio out of sync by about 2-3 seconds!! My system hardware certainly exceeds what is deemed to be more than what’s needed. Here is what my system hardware consists of:

    AMD Phenom x4 3.1
    WD 7200 500G
    AMD HD 4650 GPU
    5.1 Dig Sound

    Here is the kicker that the vegas designers may want to deeply think about: I took the exact video that I imported into vegas and decided to import into windows live movie maker. I proceeded to make my cuts, add additional video, text, and music to my project. I was able to duplicate(almost precisely) in movie maker what I had done in vegas with the end result being a very nicely pieced and processed dvd! The video and audio were 100% perfectly in sync after the render! Kind of sad for sony I would say. I would certainly prefer to use vegas because of it being more versitale, but in this situation vegas is one big loser. I know there are many hardcore vegas fanatics, but it needs to be said about things can be deceiving(meaning movie maker’s positive ability). So the burning question here is: Why was movie maker(little tikes)able to accomplish what vegas(nascar) couldn’t?

    Richard Moskowitz replied 11 years, 2 months ago 10 Members · 25 Replies
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  • John Rofrano

    February 18, 2015 at 2:33 am

    Sorry to hear that you’ve had such an awful experience with Vegas Pro but I can tell you from personal experience from using Vegas Pro since 2002 doing VHS captures and creating DVD’s that I have never had my audio go out of sync once in 13 years. I can’t explain the behavior you are seeing but it I can assure you that it is unique to your computer. All the professionals on this forum who make their living using Vegas Pro would not be using it if this happened all the time.

    How are you capturing your VHS tapes? What format are they digitized in? I use a Canopus ADVC-300 which has Time-Based Correction and creates DV AVI files. Like I said, I’ve never had sync problems with these files in Vegas Pro.

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

  • Graham Bernard

    February 18, 2015 at 2:49 am

    Whilst I agree with John’s comments regarding the VHS to DVD experience, which mirrors my own, I’m having an issue trying to understand how, Richard, you’re experiencing sync in Preview and not when prepared and burnt to DVD.

    Interesting.

    However, to challenge SONY over a design to output issue, where if this had been the case, there would have been such User consternation we would have heard it from the Rockies to the Alps and the gleaming shores of Australia. I’m not hearing it.

    We definitely need more information from as to your workflow.

    Grazie

    Video Content Creator and Potter
    PC 7 64-bit 16gb * Intel® Core™i7-2600k Quad Core 3.40GHz * 2GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 560 Ti
    Cameras: Canon XF300 + PowerShot SX50HS Bridge

  • Steve Rhoden

    February 18, 2015 at 11:55 am

    We here are not fanatics Richard, we are professionals who tries to
    assist others like you with your problem. Yes its unfortunate that you
    had this issue with Vegas, but its not at least universal.

    Unfortunately since you have tried so many options to fix this, i dont
    know which direction to point you to, but i can confidently tell you
    that something you have installed or configured, is causing you this
    frustration with Vegas (If only i physically had your system, would be
    an easy fix
    )…

    Steve Rhoden (Cow Leader)
    Film Maker & VFX Artist.
    Owner of Filmex Creative Media.
    Samples of my Work and Company can be seen here:
    https://www.facebook.com/FilmexCreativeMedia

  • John Bolton

    February 18, 2015 at 12:58 pm

    I see your specs are with 5.1 Dig sound..Are you rendering the Audio as 5.1 in Vegas or just standard stereo ?

  • Richard Moskowitz

    February 18, 2015 at 2:14 pm

    John: Thank you for you sympathy. Just to be clear, I’m not bashing Vegas. I want to use it over anything else.

    Capturing- I use an Avermedia C027 Internal PCI-E ( https://www.avermedia-usa.com/avertv/product/ProductDetail.aspx?Id=482 ) DVD/VCR player plugged directly into the internal card. Then I play and record from a vhs tape. Here are the settings for capturing and system specs:

  • Richard Moskowitz

    February 18, 2015 at 2:17 pm

    Stereo, because that is how it was captured. I uploaded a few snipping photo’s to show my details.

  • Dave Osbun

    February 18, 2015 at 7:33 pm

    My DVDs come out great. Don’t fault the software…..

    Many times crazy issues are caused by the smallest thing, thus easy to overlook.

    If you have the time & ability, wipe the system drive clean with a reformat and reinstall Windows. Install Vegas and DVD Architect and NOTHING ELSE. Make your DVD and hopefully it comes out perfect.

    If the DVD is good, reinstall the programs you need ONE AT A TIME, and make another exactly same DVD after each install.

    You should be able to find the cause of your issue.

    Dave

  • Richard Moskowitz

    February 18, 2015 at 10:46 pm

    I certainly understand your rational, but why then would a baby steps program like live movie maker accomplish to perfection what solid professional program like Vegas couldn’t do? Not putting you on the spot, just a generalized wonder.

  • Nigel O’neill

    February 19, 2015 at 12:28 pm

    Richard, you won’t happened to have installed a codec pack such as K-lite to your system, would you? Doing so can have a detrimental effect on Vegas. Check your installed programs in control panel. Are you rendering CBR or VBR? Which version of Vegas are you using?

    My system specs: Intel i7 970, 12GB RAM, ASUS P6T, Vegas Pro 12 (x64), Windows 7 x64 Ultimate, Vegas Production Assistant 1.0, VASST Ultimate S Pro 4.1, Neat Video Pro 2.6

  • Bob Peterson

    February 19, 2015 at 3:18 pm

    You can solve the problem with a rational process or continue to complain about baby steps. It’s really a choice as to what you want to accomplish.

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