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Vegas and DVCpro50??
Here at our studio, we’re getting ready for substantial upgrades and overhauls. One of the biggest changes will come with the great possibility of moving to the DVCPRO50 tape format, and using the SDX-900 camera (im very excited). one guy on our staff here is very pro-avid and brags about how xpress pro can capture and edit dvcpro50 all via firewire, then preview it all in realtime uncompressed via the Mojo. So we’ll have one edit bay thats a decked out Xpress studio system with a SD-93 deck. I’m a huge Vegas supporter and want to “compete” with his system by having a bada$$ vegas system… but it must be one that will edit the 50mb source material. Now i know vegas will do hdv, dv, and SDI (with decklink). BUT can it capture and export natively the 50mb material just over firewire like Xpress pro can? Xpress pro couldn’t do it until a windows XP update was released (in SP2 i believe). Seems like vegas should be able to do this as well.
This is a big deal for me. i loooooove vegas and i want to see 24p, 16×9, 50mb video on its timeline! any thoughts? thanks
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Sorry to bear the bearer of bad tidings Lance but, as of right now, it can’t be done 🙁
There was a thread about this issue on another Vegas forum recently and this was Sony’s response:“IF there were a 3rd party capture/print module to get files on and off of the computer and IF the codec were something Vegas could access, you’d be able to do DVCPRO HD in Vegas 4, 5, or 6.
DVCPRO50 currently “works” similarly- all you need is the codec installed to edit the files, i/o is handled by something external.” -
I would like to encourage EVERYONE to contact the Vegas team and let them know you want Panasonic support! I use DV50 files in Vegas often, but you can’t capture or output via 1394. 🙁
Go to https://mediasoftware.sonypictures.com/support/productsuggestion.asp
and fill out the form requesting Panasonic support.I’d really like to see Vegas do FULL support for all the Panasonic products including DVCPro HD! Now while I like XDCam much better than P2, I still need to get both types of HD projects out for clients. The major networks are split between 1080i and 720P. Vegas should support EVERYTHING out there.
Please — everyone take the time to let Sony know that DV50 and DVCPro100 *should* be supported.
td
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It has been done, the request that is. We use a massive amount of DVC Pro 25/50 and nothing would make us happier than to see Panasonic support. If we don’t get it Vegas will be left behind. Native DVC support over firewire would be brilliant. Various flavours of DVC Pro are now supported by FCP, Avid, Pinnacle and Canopus. It would be a shame to see Vegas miss out on further penetration into the pro post market because it is Sony product based on the premise that they don’t want to support anything from the Panasonic opposition. Surely they wouldn’t be that petty and think like that? Would they? If they are serious about Vegas as a ‘Pro’ tool it will come.
Chris Young
CYV Productions
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I’ll certainly go to the sony website and do my part in requesting this feature. I rave all the time about how much better, more user friendly, and faster vegas is compared to FCP or avid. BUUUT.. if it can’t support a very widely used format such as the panasonic stuff, thats a strike against my bragging abilities.
So if some of you are actually using DV50 material, how does that work? if it’s not done via firewire, how is it acquired, edited, and output back to tape? do i have to use that decklink system or something similar? this is the question. thanks for the replies so far!
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[lance herring] “So if some of you are actually using DV50 material, how does that work? if it’s not done via firewire, how is it acquired, edited, and output back to tape?”
I capture SDI via Matrox DTV card into DV50. I also use the free DV50 codec from Matrox to render out files in Vegas, whether going back through the DTV card or not. DV50 plays very nice with 1394 previews. I like to use the DV50 codec to render graphics segs and sub-segments because of it’s great quality and 4:2:2 color space, plus it’s tiny file size compared to uncompressed.
Free Matrox codecs: https://www.matrox.com/video/support/ds/software/home.cfm
You get MJPEG, MJPEG lossless, DV50, DV25, and MPEG2 I-Frame codecs from the one install.td
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Ok sorry for being dense and confused here, but how would a matrox product work with vegas? What do you use to capture and print to tape? I’ve heard of the decklink stuff being used for uncompressed SDI, but is this any different (better or worse) than this matrox card you talk about?
So all in all what would be a great system as far as using vegas with dv50 material? I’m going to upgrade our main system here and have a pretty generous budget. Will i need scsi drives? Obviously editing dv material is no problem, but i want to build a nice system that can handle the DV50 material. Will i still get realtime preview on an external monitor? Does it still preview transitions and effects on the monitor? Any advice would be great! thanks a bunch
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Tim –
I have questions about your workflow. You got me interesting in trying out vegas, but how do I get it to work with my Matrox card? I can’t see how to use the matrox to see the preview on a broadcast maonitor. I can’t see how to really utilize the files the Matrox creates. I guess I can tell it to use the Matrox capture app, but then how do I get it to register the correct time-code? How about Vegas seeing the separate audio and video files as a single file?Any help would be greatly appreciated!!
Brian Scott
President
Image Design Productions, Inc.
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