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  • Vegas and concern about losing weeks of work!

    Posted by Don Kimball on November 23, 2005 at 5:29 am

    Well after weeks of work on a great project I tried for the second time to save all of my unrendered work in vegas to a DVD using Sony’s Click to DVD program (it came bundled with my Sony Vaio media computer.

    The first time I just burned the vmf file thinking this would work fine (yes I tested it and my footage remained intact) when I opened it on my computer from the DVD drive. This was while Vegas was loaded on my computer. I had to strip my entire computer and load all of my programs because of a viscious virus that got by norton antivirus. To my horror when I opened the burned DVD and my saved vmg file in my new downloaded version of Sony Vegas only the skeletal frames of where the video had been were present although all of the media text files were still there.

    This time I hoped I would solve the problem by saving my vmf file and clicking “copy trim media with project”. Burned the DVD and this time took it to another computer entirely which was loaded with the trial version of Vegas Movie Studio. Same thing.. no video appears whatsoever. I have a project that will take up more hard drive than I have space for. I was hoping to break my unrendered work into 3 DVD’s (about 1 hour each) and work on them individually before burning the entire edited version.

    In brief how do I save my unrendered movie to a DVD so that I can open it in Vegas and work on it another time or archive it in its raw form? I have moviestudio+DVD so not the big deluxe version of Vegas

    Worried and sure there is something I havent read

    Don

    Edward Troxel replied 20 years, 5 months ago 3 Members · 12 Replies
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  • Jeremy Rochefort

    November 23, 2005 at 9:47 am

    I don’t have Vegas Movie Studio but my reckoning would be that working from a dvd would create problems.

    The big brother of Vegas Movie Studio will create temporary files required by Vegas to build the video and audio preview you see on the timeline – by working with a dvd, Vegas can’t write to the dvd drive and hence your problem – hope I’m right on this one but that is what my logic is telling me.

    Cheers

    Jeremy

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    http://www.mjproductions.co.za
    MJ Productions
    Never let the need for money outweigh the need for Quality, Friendly & Proffessional Service

  • Edward Troxel

    November 23, 2005 at 2:24 pm

    The vmf file is only the definition of the cuts and dissolves you have made and a list of the events on the tracks. It does NOT contain any of your video or audio clips (but SHOULD contain everything necessary for the generated media).

    Since you have the VMF file, it should be easy to restore the project. Just recapture the clips used the by that project and all should be back to normal.

    Edward Troxel
    JETDV Scripts

  • Don Kimball

    November 23, 2005 at 7:06 pm

    Hi Jeremy… I probably wasnt very specific. I dont want to work from the DVD. I want to take all of my captures and work and put them in a DVD that I can save. Then at will load all of this information back into a fresh new file in Sony Vegas and edit the project or add more footage etc.

    In short… I would like all of my work on a DVD so I can work on it later or transport it easily to another computer etc. Surely Vegas has that capability!

    Thanks
    Don

  • Edward Troxel

    November 23, 2005 at 7:12 pm

    That’s not very pracitcal if you have a lot of DV footage. DV-AVI is roughly 13Gig per hour. If you had a couple hours worth of footage, that would be at least 6 DVDs just for footage. I find it easier to just recapture from the tapes.

    Edward Troxel
    JETDV Scripts

  • Don Kimball

    November 23, 2005 at 8:16 pm

    If I am understanding correctly though these will be the raw unedited clips which will have to be trimmed again or slowed down, sped up edited etc. all over again. If I am reading this correct that would be a great deal of work!

    How do other video affecinados back up their work? Surely folks have a method to do so or even move their work to another computer etc.!

    Thanks for your help!

  • Jeremy Rochefort

    November 23, 2005 at 8:33 pm

    What Ed was referring to is that the vmf file contains all the work you have already done – cuts/transitions/velocity etc.

    By just restoring the file to a folder and re-capturing the tapes will put you in a better position to store work. When you open the file, it should ask you for the location of the media files you have re-captured – hence the saving of using multiple dvd’s for backing up the data.

    I for one don’t backup – its one of those risks most take. Normally, we work on a project, finish it, deliver and if the customer is happy, delete the files. We normally keep a digital master of the final project. Storage is not so cheap yet – unless someone pays for the privelege of a hard drive for future work, its gone once the contract is complete.

    Cheers

    Jeremy

    —————————-

    http://www.mjproductions.co.za
    MJ Productions
    Never let the need for money outweigh the need for Quality, Friendly & Proffessional Service

  • Don Kimball

    November 23, 2005 at 9:58 pm

    Jeremy

    Since all of the cuts I made of the original footage is lost when I import the footage all over again this seems like redoing a 45 min movie will take a long time! So I understand your position on finishing the project and then deleting the files. The digital master is simply one copy of the entire project on a DVD? or how do you store the master? Also are there companies that provide a service to duplicate your master for you or how do you reproduce it in case the customer all of a sudden wants more copies?

    Thanks again!

    Don

  • Edward Troxel

    November 23, 2005 at 10:07 pm

    I’m a little confused:

    Why are all your cuts lost if you re-capture?

    If you have a master of the final, why would there be a problem making more copies? Just pop it in the deck and press play or duplicate a DVD.

    You still have your project file. Simply recapture from tape with the exact same start and stop times you had before and point the project files to the new capture. That should be identical.

    Edward Troxel
    JETDV Scripts

  • Don Kimball

    November 23, 2005 at 10:59 pm

    Hi Ed:

    Perhaps this points quite loudly to being an enthusiastic beginner without as much careful methodology in working with my footage… chuckle.

    I basically did not record start and stop times with my footage. Simply imputted it into vegas directly from my Sony DV camera. Each clip simply rested in the project media section of vegas in an unedited raw format.

    From there I trimmed or slowed down etc. the footage as it was added into my project one chunk at a time.

    So basically I would have to redo the entire process of trimming and editing the footage and building it one piece at a time once more into a 45 min film…

    that is unless I have missed on some basic elementary steps or principles in vegas which I may just well have. Thanks for your kind mentoring in this!

    Don

  • Edward Troxel

    November 24, 2005 at 2:42 am

    That’s all fine. It’s in the media pool that way as well. If you open a VEG file and the media is not found, you are given several option – one of which is to RECAPTURE. *IT* will take care of remembering the start and stop times for you.

    Edward Troxel
    JETDV Scripts

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