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    Posted by Tyson Onaga on February 16, 2012 at 6:56 pm

    Found a bug in a DJ Ready2Go project. In short, their .veg uses an .mov which has ghost text (“Main Title”). I’ve contacted DJ and have asked to get the ghost text removed (I need a clean version of the .mov). Their reply was long-winded (I think there’s a language problem) and included this statement:

    There is no other way of editing text. Vegas does not support pre-composition like After Effects & Premiere Pro.

    What the !@)(*& does that mean?

    I don’t think a text object has anything to do with the problem as the ghost text is in the pre-made .mov that ships with Ready2Go.

    As a side note, I believe the Ready2Go project in question is using clips from Compositor’s Toolkit 3 (which I have) so I can probably do a substitution will no ill effects.

    BTW, kudos to Stephen Mann for the tip on making ISOs out of the DVDs and mounting them as a virtual optical drive. Painfully slow but need only be done once.

    Steve Rhoden replied 14 years, 2 months ago 3 Members · 12 Replies
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  • Steve Rhoden

    February 16, 2012 at 7:56 pm

    What the !@)(*& does that mean?

    lol….I agree with you.
    But Personally, i do not use any of their ready to go
    projects… What i do often use is their Toxic Types
    Collection in After Effects.

    Steve Rhoden
    (Cow Leader)
    Film Editor & Compositor.
    Filmex Creative Media.
    1-876-832-4956

  • Stephen Mann

    February 16, 2012 at 10:20 pm

    I passed on the Ready2Go offer when they first came out so I don’t know what’s in the package. Did you make the MOV file from Juicer?

    Steve Mann
    MannMade Digital Video
    http://www.mmdv.com

  • Tyson Onaga

    February 16, 2012 at 11:57 pm

    > Did you make the MOV file from Juicer?

    Yes. However, if you compare the file from the R2G source:
    …Juicer 3CatalogR2GSVPRO_V03INSGolden MemoriesGolden Memories Sources

    with the exported (“juice-d”) files:
    …DigitalJuiceReady2GoGoldenMemories1080-30p_v1

    there are two files exactly the same:
    094_GoldenMemories_CP_HD_Layer2.mov

    If you drop that into (eg) VLC, pause it at 5s, you see the ghost text “Main Title”. Thus, I’m inclined to suspect it didn’t get there via the Juicer, but rather was mistakenly merged into the background HD Layer2 .mov file.

    Also, I probably can take a Compositor’s Toolkit 3 Surface Tension .mov, trim and replace it and all should be ok. But … it is annoying nonetheless.

  • Tyson Onaga

    February 17, 2012 at 12:23 am

    This text formatter is just plain weird … one more try:

    > Did you make the MOV file from Juicer?

    Yes. However, if you compare the file from the R2G source:
    ...\Juicer 3\Catalog\R2GSVPRO_V03INS\Golden Memories\Golden Memories Sources
    with the exported (“juice-d”) files:
    ...\DigitalJuice\Ready2Go\GoldenMemories\1080-30p_v1
    there are two files exactly the same:
    094_GoldenMemories_CP_HD_Layer2.mov

    If you drop that into (eg) VLC, pause it at 5s, you see the ghost text “Main Title“. Thus, I’m inclined to suspect it didn’t get there via the Juicer, but rather was mistakenly merged into the background HD Layer2 .mov file.

    Also, I probably can take a Compositor’s Toolkit 3 Surface Tension .mov, trim and replace it and all should be ok. But … it is annoying nonetheless.

  • Stephen Mann

    February 17, 2012 at 3:16 am

    I think I am beginning to visualize the problem. Can you upload a screenshot?

    Steve Mann
    MannMade Digital Video
    http://www.mmdv.com

  • Tyson Onaga

    February 17, 2012 at 4:31 am

    Tried to put it here:
    https://dl.dropbox.com/u/18580353/DJ_Ready2Go_GoldenMemories_badHDLayer2.jpg

    Hopefully you can see:
    1. Track 12 in Vegas is solo-d and at 5s, there’s text in the preview window.
    2. The file used, 094_GoldenMemories_CP_HD_Layer2.mov is in VLC. At 5s, the text is there too.
    3. The Explorer window shows the file in question. That EXACT file is in the Juicer library … same name, size, contents, etc.

    Me thinks the “Main Title” is inside the .mov file.
    Clear as mud!?
    ;-*

  • Steve Rhoden

    February 17, 2012 at 11:10 am

    Yep. i see it. If all other tracks are muted and this
    one mov. file is the only one being seen in the preview
    window…..Then it is indeed embedded in that file.

    Steve Rhoden
    (Cow Leader)
    Film Editor & Compositor.
    Filmex Creative Media.
    1-876-832-4956

  • Stephen Mann

    February 17, 2012 at 5:36 pm

    Since your preview and VLC images are not of the same frame, it’s impossible to make an A-B comparison.

    I don’t see any text in the preview window. If anything the preview is cleaner than the VLC image, but that could be because they are of different frames.

    Since I don’t have the product, I don’t know what your finished project *should* look like. I am just seeing one frame from one track, and if there is some residual text there, I don’t see it.

    Steve Mann
    MannMade Digital Video
    http://www.mmdv.com

  • Tyson Onaga

    February 17, 2012 at 5:56 pm

    Steve,

    Steve Rhoden can see it.
    You don’t need the same frame as it is a fade out.
    Check here:
    https://www.digitaljuice.com/products/products.asp?pid=1892

    Scroll down to Golden Memories and play it. ~5s you’ll see “Main Title” fade out as Video Holder 1 is fading in.

    Now look at my image. Look at the Preview, right around the left-center you can see the outline of the “M”. Look at VLC, around the left-center you can see the same “M” (of Main Title).

    > don’t know what your finished project *should* look like
    With the R2G … you replace the text in the Sony Text objects and the media in Video Holder #. So if I do that, I see the text (eg)
    FooBar

    with “Main Title” in the back.

    That’s wrong …

  • Stephen Mann

    February 17, 2012 at 9:00 pm

    I am still not seeing it on the preview, and I think I see it in the VLC image, but your arrow points to a blank part of the screen.

    I think you will need to find someone else with the DJ product to duplicate your problem. I am not saying that DJ *didn’t* screw up the MOV file, (it wouldn’t be the first time) but I think you are throwing the needle into the haystack in your examples.

    Can you use Juicer to export the background mov file only, then drop it alone into a Vegas project – does this show the remnants of the “Main Title” text?

    Steve Mann
    MannMade Digital Video
    http://www.mmdv.com

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