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  • Vegas 16: Are Excalibur and VASST Event Tools Compatible?

    Posted by Rich Kutnick on October 4, 2018 at 8:33 pm

    I just upgraded to Vegas 16, and don’t see some of my favorite extensions listed. Actually none of my extensions carried over from SONY Vegs 13!

    Nevertheless,

    1) Will Excalibur work in Vegas 16? If so, how do I set it up to show in Vegas 16?

    2) Will VASST Event Tools work in Vegas 16? If so, how do I set it up to show in Vegas 16?

    3) I saw a thread elsewhere where John Rofrano noted that VASST Production Assistant 2 (by VASST) will NOT work in Magix Vegas editions, BUT that Magix was selling a new, compatible version. Unfortunately, I could not find this program on the Magix web site. HELP!!

    As always, thank you in advance.

    Rich Kutnick
    VIDEO IMPRESSIONS

    John Rofrano replied 7 years, 6 months ago 4 Members · 9 Replies
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  • Graham Bernard

    October 5, 2018 at 2:58 am

    For VASST read this:

    https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/vasst-software-plug-ins-updated-for-vegas-pro-16-now-available–113030/

    For Excalibur read this:

    https://forums.creativecow.net/readpost/24/1022410

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  • John Rofrano

    October 5, 2018 at 11:07 am

    [Rich Kutnick] “2) Will VASST Event Tools work in Vegas 16? If so, how do I set it up to show in Vegas 16?”

    Yes, just download the latest installer from the Download page of the vasstsoftware.com web site for the latest versions.

    [Rich Kutnick] “3) I saw a thread elsewhere where John Rofrano noted that VASST Production Assistant 2 (by VASST) will NOT work in Magix Vegas editions, BUT that Magix was selling a new, compatible version. Unfortunately, I could not find this program on the Magix web site. HELP!!”

    This is the product page you are looking for: MAGIX Production Assistant Pro

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasstsoftware.com

  • Edward Troxel

    October 9, 2018 at 2:51 pm

    Yes, Excalibur works in Vegas Pro 16. You need to make sure you have the Vegas Pro 14/15/16 version installed. So just download the current version.

    Edward Troxel

  • Rich Kutnick

    October 9, 2018 at 8:08 pm

    Thanks to all for getting me up to speed on Magix Vegas Pro 16!

    John:

    I inquired about getting an upgrade discount to Magix Production Assistant, seeing that I already purchased Production Assistant 2 from VASST and just wanted to upgrade with them instead of having to pay yet another full price for software I already possess yet is incompatible with Vegas Pro 16–seems like a reasonable and fair request by me, based upon past purchases and upgrades of such software. Their sales department wrote back to me:

    “Hello,

    Thank you for your request.

    We are not able to offer an upgrade discount for the Production Assistant, as this a third party product.
    We hope for your understanding.

    Best regards,

    MAGIX Computer Products International Co.
    Thomas Ash
    280 Greg St., Suite 10
    Reno, NV 89502-2272
    United States of America”

    Is VASST by any chance the third party to whom they are alluding? If so, I saw that VASST now is selling through Digital River, correct? Again, if so, will you be offering the compatible version of Production Assistant through them?

    Please advise, and thank you in advance again.

    Rich Kutnick
    VIDEO IMPRESSIONS

  • John Rofrano

    October 9, 2018 at 9:27 pm

    [Rich Kutnick] “…seeing that I already purchased Production Assistant 2 from VASST “

    Hi Rich,

    Sony Vegas Pro Production Assistant 2 was a Sony product. You did not buy it from VASST because VASST never sold it! We created the product for Sony but it was exclusively a Sony branded and sold product powered by VASST Software technology. It would be impossible for VASST to offer upgrades since we don’t have access to the Sony sales records to validate who purchased it.

    VEGAS Production Assistant Pro should be a MAGIX product. They should have the Sony sales data to validate previous customers because they maintain your license keys in their database. I’m not sure that they understand this.

    Let me look into this and I’ll get back to you because that email statement is very confusing.

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasstsoftware.com

  • Rich Kutnick

    October 17, 2018 at 2:20 pm

    I really hope that this can be straightened out, as there a number of tools in Production Assistant that I use on a regular basis and now are not accessible to me. Thanks for looking into this, John.

    Rich Kutnick
    VIDEO IMPRESSIONS

  • Rich Kutnick

    October 25, 2018 at 7:46 pm

    While on the subject of VEGAS Production Assistant, there was a tool that allowed one to normalize a complete audio track. Right now the only way I know how to do this is on an event-to-event basis, one event at a time across the whole timeline (laborious)! Is there a better way to do this natively, or even an app other than VEGAS Production Assistant that can pull this off?

    Thanks in advance.

    Rich Kutnick
    VIDEO IMPRESSIONS

  • Edward Troxel

    October 25, 2018 at 11:19 pm

    Many tools can apply that to events including Excalibur and Production Assistant.

    You can also just select all of the audio events you want normalized, right-click one of them, and choose Switches – Normalize. That will normalize all of the selected events.

    Edward Troxel

  • John Rofrano

    October 26, 2018 at 3:26 am

    Rich, The problem with all off these tools is that none of them are going to do what I think you really want.

    Production Assistant and Excalibur and selecting all events and running Normalize won’t perform a normalization across all of the events. It will normalize each event individually and if one clip was low but had a spike it will be normalized to the spike with the rest of the audio still being low. If another was low with no spike, it will be normalized to the low audio making it all louder. This will make the events very uneven because normalize is just a mathematical algorithm that brings the loudest audio to 0 dbFS and adjusts the remainder relative to that.

    What you really want to do is use the Track Compressor to bring the entire track of audio up to the same level. A compressor will bring up the low audio and bring down the loud audio making it all smooth. That will sounds better than normalizing individual events. Adjust the Threshold to determine when the compression will kick in. The lower the threshold, the more low audio will become louder.

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasstsoftware.com

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