Vegas 15 w/ QT Files

[Lee Doucet]

This is the problem…

1. Even though HQX Supports Alpha Channels, VEGAS Pro is HARD-CODED to disallow you to render the Alpha Channel unless you’re rendering to Uncompressed AVI.

2. While VEGAS Supports rendering to ProRes 444 (“MAGIX Intermediate,” formerly “MAGIX ProRes”), there is no option there to render the Alpha Channel – so it cannot be done.

Kind of hilarious when you think about it, given this is a Windows-only product…

Unless you use Image Sequences, Uncompressed AVI, or Legacy QT Framework/CODECs, there is no way to get Alpha Out of VEGAS Pro – short of using a third party tool to create assets that require Alpha Channels (After Effects, Motion, Fusion, Titler Pro/Title Studio, etc.), rendering from there, and then importing the rendered clips into VEGAS Pro.

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Personally, I’m investigating moving off of VEGAS Pro – likely to Premiere Pro CC. The workflow is becoming a time-wasting virus of despair. I got cussed out after sending an [VEGAS-generated] AAF out and my 19 Audio Tracks became over 160 on the Sound Designer’s DAW because VEGAS puts every clip and L/R channel of those clips on a different track… completely random tracks (i.e. a clip could have 20+ tracks between its Left and Right Channel – it’s way worse for Surround). I had to download a trial of Premiere Pro to “fix” the problem, which certainly was a LOT faster than having him manually fix the session on his end, since the generated AAFs were practically flawless… Thank God Adobe offers trials…

I only need the NLE, so $20.99/mo. isn’t much to pay, and it’s not like VEGAS 365 is much cheaper, since you’re otherwise basically are forced to upgrade yearly just for the smallest of QoL improvements (so, a subscription de facto).

The problem with QT in VEGAS has more to do with awful development than a reliance on QT. You can easily transcode Animation Files to a format that doesn’t require QT, but you can’t even batch convert easily without a[n overpriced] third party extension. It supports CODECs that support Alpha, but forbids you from rendering out the Alpha Channels. It’s as if the NLE is working against you at every turn – like a marketing promotion for competing products.

[George Dean]

Lee Doucet @ “Unless you use Image Sequences, Uncompressed AVI, or Legacy QT Framework/CODECs, there is no way to get Alpha Out of VEGAS Pro – short of using a third party tool to create assets that require Alpha Channels (After Effects, Motion, Fusion, Titler Pro/Title Studio, etc.), rendering from there, and then importing the rendered clips into VEGAS Pro.”

Lee, doesn’t Magic 8 bit RGBA produce a render with alpha channel?

Personally it doesn’t matter as I use DaVinci Resolve and have no use currently for alpha channel.

Best Regards……George

[Lee Doucet]

Don’t know. I don’t generally use esoteric CODECs that aren’t reliably portable… because I might switch platforms or NLEs. I need something that is a bit more standard, like ProRes or DNxHR – or freely available regardless of platform – like Grass Valley HQX.

I am evaluating other NLEs at the moment. VEGAS basically can’t interop with anything else, so I’m practically forced to at the moment. It is terrible at Importing and Exporting AAF files ☹

Nothing that I exported out of Resolve comes into VEGAS Pro properly (if at all), and exporting Audio Timelines results in the messiest track layouts I have ever seen in my life when imported into a DAW session…. EVER (unusable de facto).

Don’t like how heavy Resolve feels on my system (esp. my Laptop). Might go to Premiere Pro. Its AAFs are flawless when I import them into my Audio apps, and Resolve has bad CODEC support (can’t export XAVC-Intra Video, Premiere Pro can… H.264 is bad in DAWs).

[Ole Kristiansen]

Hi

“…. and Resolve has bad CODEC support (can’t export XAVC-Intra Video, Premiere Pro can… H.264 is bad in DAWs).”

Is it because you compare Davinci Resolve free with a purchase program like Adobe Premiere Pro?

I have Davinci Resolve Studio and this ……

MXF OP1A mxf Sony XAVC Intra CBG 100 1280×720
MXF OP1A mxf Sony XAVC Intra CBG 100 1920×1080
MXF OP1A mxf Sony XAVC Intra CBG 100 2040×1080
MXF OP1A mxf Sony XAVC Intra CBG 200 1920×1080
MXF OP1A mxf Sony XAVC Intra CBG 300 3840×2160
MXF OP1A mxf Sony XAVC Intra CBG 300 4096×2160

MXF OP1A mxf Sony XAVC Intra CBG 480 3840×2160
MXF OP1A mxf Sony XAVC Intra CBG 480 4096×2160
MXF OP1A mxf Sony XAVC Intra CBG 50 1440×1080
MXF OP1A mxf Sony XAVC Intra VBR 100 2048×1080
MXF OP1A mxf Sony XAVC Intra VBR 300 3840×2160
MXF OP1A mxf Sony XAVC Intra VBR 300 4096×2160
MXF OP1A mxf Sony XAVC Intra VBR 480 3840×2160
MXF OP1A mxf Sony XAVC Intra VBR 480 4096×2160

Quicktime mov XAVC MPEG4

Quicktime mp4 H.264 (Sony XAVCs)

Quicktime mov AVC-Intra XAVC-MPEG4
Quicktime mov Sony XAVC (FCPX) XAVC