Vegas 12 cannot read my SMPTE timecode

[Mike Kujbida]

You need to run the “Add Media to all Timecode” script first to get Vegas to see your source timecode.
Note: this will add the timecode display to all your media but it will be source timecode and can be removed later by running the “Remove Timecode from all Media” script.

[John Rofrano]

[Mike Kujbida] “You need to run the “Add Media to all Timecode” script first to get Vegas to see your source timecode.”

If you are unfamiliar with Vegas scripting, you do this from the Vegas menu Tools | Scripting | Add Timecode to all Media.

~jr

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[John Rofrano]

[John Frey] “… in Premiere by dropping their Timecode effect on a clip and selecting ‘Media’. “

In Vegas Pro you would go to the Project Media and right-click the media that you want to add the timecode to and select Media FX… and select Sony Timecode. This is the equivalent of what you did in Premiere by adding the Timecode to the media. A quicker way is to use the script that Mike pointed you to.

[John Frey] “As I am also giving Vegas 12 Pro a shot at the edit,”

I assume you may be unfamiliar with Vegas Pro so allow me to further explain how Vegas works with regard to FX: In Vegas Pro you can add FX to the Media, Event, Track, or Master Output. Where you add them obviously has different behavior. For example, adding Timecode to the media uses the media’s embedded timecode. Adding Timecode to an event will start at zero for each event regardless of where it is on the timeline. Adding Timecode to the Track will start at the Timeline Ruler start (which could be non-zero) for the duration of the track but will only be seen when that track is seen. Adding timecode to the Master Output will start at the Timeline Ruler start and overlay the entire project. This is good for burning timecode into the final output.

~jr

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[John Frey]

Mike and John – Thanks for the replies. I am familiar with how Vegas allows for adding fx at the media, event, tack and output levels. I had already tried adding timecode to my media, both through scripting and individually, but I still do not get the original SMPTE code that my camera generated for each clip as I do in Adobe Premiere CS6. It may relate to the fact that we shot these projects at 60fps, as we had actors in fast motion against greenscreen and the script called for a lot of slo-mo. What is weird is that although Premiere allows for a 60fps setting when applying media timecode effect at the media level, it will only display the correct original code at the 30fps setting.

John D. Frey
25 Year owner/operator of two California-based production studios.

Digital West Video Productions of San Luis Obispo and Inland Images of Lake Elsinore

[Graham Bernard]

[John Frey] ” but I still do not get the original SMPTE code that my camera generated for each clip”

OK, then what are you getting and, more to the point, what are you missing from your camera’s SMPTE code?

Cheers

Grazie

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[John Frey]

I have 89 clips from that camera that contain SMPTE time-code that is sequential. Premier reads it but Vegas sees each clip starting over at 00:00:00:00, no matter what I do.

John D. Frey
25 Year owner/operator of two California-based production studios.

Digital West Video Productions of San Luis Obispo and Inland Images of Lake Elsinore

[Aleksey Tarasov]

Perhaps your camera is not supported i.e. Vegas can not read its timecode information.
You can ask SCS support for help.

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[Graham Bernard]

My question is this: Is it part of the SMPTE protocal to pass thru’ to an NLE the information you’re missing that you can get from Premier? Is it? In my crude research I’ve found this:

“SMPTE timecode is a set of cooperating standards to label individual frames of video or film with a time code defined by the Society of Motion Picture and Television Engineers in the SMPTE 12M specification.“

I can’t decern if there is a specification requirement within SMPTE that the “sequential” information is part of that protocol? I’m assuming that the referencing of one clip to the next and the next and so on is what you are wanting, and what you are missing from Vegas? But maybe that isn’t what SMPTE can do anyway? Maybe what you ARE getting in Premier is a T/C bonus. What you are getting in Vegas is purely the correct interpretation of the SMPTE protocol, and that would mean frame accurate numeration against time generation. Getting the new clip “start-over” result doesn’t get you what you want – you always start from 00:00:00,00. I understand that. But I don’t think Vegas is to blame here as the SMPTE protocol would “appear” to being interpreted accurately and correctly. Now, this is obviously not enough for you, and I have wanted this too, but that would appear to be a feature request. As to the camera NOT being interpreted correctly, maybe our friend here can tell us what camera does do this?

So, maybe Vegas is getting the SMPTE code in correctly but not the sequential part you, and count me in, want or wish for.

I hope that helps. If I have misinterpreted the SMPTE T/C protocol and its management into Vegas I’m happy for anybody to put me right.

Cheers

Grazie

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Cameras: Canon XF300 + PowerShot SX50HS Bridge

[Grzegorz Kwiatkowski]

John, do you wish to sync the cameras basing on timecode?