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  • Vegas 10 and Quicktime with AVCHD

    Posted by Don Greenfield on August 16, 2010 at 4:43 pm

    I purchased Vegas 10 last week and am having significant issues rendering to QuickTime (v 7.6.7) when using the default 3m setting.

    The video is from my Sony NXCAM which is AVCHD format. The size of the video is 16g. I have tried cutting it into smaller chunks – but it still errors out and gives me a red screen in the preview section.

    The AVCHD files I have tried both importing directly through the Sony Content Management Utility (which takes all of the 2g files and combines; and I have tried to copy the files directly from the camera to the computer and used the raw videos. Unfortunately, the files are no longer available on the camera to import directly via Vegas.

    The video is of a marriage conference and the speaker is asking for the raw footage in QuickTime format. Therefore, I have not done any editing, nor added any titles, fades, etc. Just plain raw footage.

    I am running Windows 7, using an i7 processor with 6g of RAM. Nothing else but core apps are running.

    Using the default settings for QuickTime, the screen says the 16g will be compressed to 2.65g and will take anywhere from 35 to 65 minutes.

    After 15 minutes of processing, I receive an error that the file cannot be created and the preview screen is all red.

    Please help!

    Picture 1: Make Movie Default

    Picture 2: QuickTime Default Settings

    Picture 3: Rendering

    Picture 4: Error

    Picture 5: Project Properties

    John Rofrano replied 15 years, 9 months ago 3 Members · 8 Replies
  • 8 Replies
  • John Rofrano

    August 16, 2010 at 6:19 pm

    The video is from my Sony NXCAM which is AVCHD format. The size of the video is 16g. I have tried cutting it into smaller chunks – but it still errors out and gives me a red screen in the preview section.

    Usually a red screen means a resource issue like running out of memory (or close to it). What are the spec on your PC? How many CPU’s? How fast? How much memory?

    the speaker is asking for the raw footage in QuickTime format.

    I am guessing that they would like the same quality that you shot it at and this is not what your render settings were going to give him. The render settings you selected are for low quality SD multi-media footage at 15fps.

    I would tell the speaker that the “raw footage” is not in Quicktime format and that you would be happy to give him a copy of the footage in it’s original format and he can convert it to Quicktime any way he wants.

    Otherwise you are going to need to create an HD template for Quicktime because Vegas doesn’t provide one. I would set up a render template that matches your project properties and uses the Motion-JPEG A video format. That should give you pretty good quality. Set the audio to uncompressed.

    Something like this:

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

  • Don Greenfield

    August 16, 2010 at 9:49 pm

    John,

    Thank you very much! I made the custom template and am rendering now.

    I will let you know how it works.

    Thanks again!
    -Don

  • Don Greenfield

    August 18, 2010 at 2:45 pm

    Well, John… I don’t think I like Quicktime!!! I tried the changes as we discussed, and my harddirve ran out of space. I went to look at the tmp file it created, and it was 445G!

    I appreciate your help and your insight. I think I will give the speaker the actual raw AVCHD footage and let him figure it out.

    In the meantime, I just posted another topic on training for Vegas 10.

    Thanks again!

    -Don

  • John Rofrano

    August 18, 2010 at 3:07 pm

    I don’t think I like Quicktime!!! I tried the changes as we discussed, and my harddirve ran out of space. I went to look at the tmp file it created, and it was 445G!

    The real problem is that Apple won’t make their HD codecs available to the PC version of Quicktime so they deliberately are causing this compatibility problem on purpose.

    I think I will give the speaker the actual raw AVCHD footage and let him figure it out.

    Exactly! And if he can’t figure how to ingest native AVCHD files on his Mac, tell him to buy a PC. We have no problems like that. ;-D

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

  • Al Bergstein

    August 18, 2010 at 4:26 pm

    I wonder…. I have no problems with my Panasonic AVCHD codec, moving it to Quicktime. Just finishing a 16 minute documentary, shot exclusively on an HMC 150 and AVCHD, and have used the footage on both a Mac with FCP (injesting into FCP’s pro res) and into Vegas natively, then rendering it out in Quicktime and others. Not sure why I had no problems with any of this while others are experiencing them. Could be the old Apple vs. Sony (really Apple vs. the rest of the industry)situation? Sony, who cowrote the AVCHD Codec (as I understand it) hasn’t perhaps implemented it properly? Do you have problems with AVCHD in any other situations, which aren’t relying on QT output?

    Alf

  • John Rofrano

    August 18, 2010 at 9:10 pm

    Just finishing a 16 minute documentary, shot exclusively on an HMC 150 and AVCHD, and have used the footage on both a Mac with FCP (injesting into FCP’s pro res) and into Vegas natively, then rendering it out in Quicktime and others.

    Well… Don didn’t have any problems rendering to Quicktime other than running out of hard drive space. When you say you rendered out to Quicktime, was that from Vegas and what template did you use? Was it for ingestion back to FCP? This is what Don is trying to do. If so please share your template settings.

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

  • Don Greenfield

    August 19, 2010 at 3:18 pm

    John,

    I’m a recent convert to Vegas – have never used it before the trial version of Home Studio (v 10) (was with Pinnacle – but it too had difficulty with QT conversions).

    Is there some place that tells me the difference between versions 9 and 10? The price points are certainly very different – so am wondering if v9 would be a better option for me.

    Your advice is greatly appreciated.

    Thanks,
    -Don

  • John Rofrano

    August 19, 2010 at 8:58 pm

    Is there some place that tells me the difference between versions 9 and 10? The price points are certainly very different – so am wondering if v9 would be a better option for me.

    You are not only talking about two different versions. You are talking about two different products. So you don’t want to know the difference between 9 and 10… you want to know the difference between Vegas Movie Studio and Vegas Pro. This can be found on the Sony web site on the Vegas Family Comparison page.

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

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