Varicam workflow

[Shane Ross]

[Uli Kunkel] “- Should I remove redundant frames in the clips (using the DVCPRO Frame Rate Converter) and cut in a 23.98 timeline?”

No…if it was shot 720p24 on tape, then use the DVCPRO HD 720p24 Easy Setup, and FCP will remove the redundant frames when it captures. It will detect the 24p flags.

[Uli Kunkel] ” If I do remove additional frames in the footage, should I create a new clip entirely or just keep the same clip? I’m thinking there is no point in creating new media.”

Again, it captures the footage and removes the frames while it captures.

[Uli Kunkel] “- Some of the footage was overcranked and shot at 60fps. How will that affect my timeline settings?”

Please tell me it was shot on a different tape…that you didn’t mix the frame rates on one tape. That will make this more difficult. Because you will get a break in cadence…that might cause the clips to be captured wrong. BUT…what you do when you find those clips…change the EASY SETUP to DVCPRO HD 720p60…capture them at their full 60fps. THen use the DVCPRO HD FRAME RATE CONVERTER to convert them to 23.98 slow motion. New clips will be generated:

https://library.creativecow.net/articles/ross_shane/dvpro_hd/video-tutorial.php

If you want to use them normal speed, just dropping the 720p60 into the 23.98 timeline will remove the proper pulldown. Something that is rare, as it doesn’t do it right with 29.97…

Shane

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[Uli Kunkel]

Are you sure that FCP will remove the frames when capturing through the Kona? I’ve heard of that with capturing through Firewire, but not the Kona.

Also, I’m using FCP 7. There isn’t an Easy Setup for just DVCPRO HD 720p24. It’s a lot more complicated than that. You can choose DVCPRO HD, but then you pick your frame rate and a bunch of other options. The Kona comes with a bunch of setups too.

So, please clarify. Thanks.

[Uli Kunkel]

I should also note that I tried various capture settings for the Kona card that were DVCPRO HD at 23.98 and they didn’t work. The video signal wouldn’t come through in FCP. It only worked with the 59.94fps setting.

When I play a clip back in the viewer, you can see the redundant frames. If there is a way to remove those and produce 23.98 media, that would be great.

Uli

[Shane Ross]

[Uli Kunkel] “Are you sure that FCP will remove the frames when capturing through the Kona? I’ve heard of that with capturing through Firewire, but not the Kona. “

Oh yeah…done it lots. Kona LH and Kona 3.

And choose the KONA DVCPRO HD Easy Setup. That’s how FCP will know to use the card. And there is a 720p 23.98 setting…

Shane

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[Shane Ross]

It won’t work with the KONA settings? Try reinstalling the drivers (uninstall first). I have done this a lot.

Shane

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[Uli Kunkel]

Okay, I’m sorry, but I just upgraded to Snow Leopard and had to install the new drivers anyway. So I’m not sure re-installing is going to help. If anything, I’m doing something else wrong.

I don’t understand why I’m able to capture at 59.94, but not at 23.98. This footage was clearly shot at 23.98.

Just for fun, I used the frame rate converter on one of these clips to “Remove redundant frames” and it successfully converted the 59.94 clip to a 23.98 clip. I would like for the card to do this while capturing, however, like you said.

What else could I be doing wrong? Could it be a setting on the deck?

I’m using the AJ-HD1700.

[Shane Ross]

Got me. But if this works. You can try one shot via firewire and see if that does it. But it should do it.

If not…remove after. Pain.

Shane

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[Uli Kunkel]

Thank you, Shane. You were right.

I uninstalled then reinstalled the Kona drivers and utilities and made sure to install all the Easy Setups. Ran a couple of tests in FCP, and it finally let me capture 23.98. And, for the slow-mo stuff, I was successfully able to use the frame rate converter to convert the 59.94 footage I captured to 23.98.

Thank you again for your patience.

Best,

Uli.

[Gary Adcock]

[Shane Ross] “No…if it was shot 720p24 on tape, then use the DVCPRO HD 720p24 Easy Setup, and FCP will remove the redundant frames when it captures. It will detect the 24p flags.”

Uli.

To extract the frames correctly Use the AJA Easy setup for AJA KONA (card) 720p 23.98 DVCPROHD VFR to extract the frames on ingest. All of the Aja products handle this pulldown removal.

note that if you shot off-speed those frame will be properly handled using that same setting.

gary adcock
Studio37

Post and Production Workflow Consultant
Production and Post Stereographer
Chicago, IL

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