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  • Varicam work flow question

    Posted by Thomas Kaufman on July 27, 2007 at 2:44 pm

    Hi, everyone,

    I have a client who wants to do the following:

    As we tape a series of interviews, to also output the HD-SDI signal to a down-converter, then store the SD signal (with TC and audio) on a hard drive. Then when the shoot is over, upload the SD material to an FTP site where an editor in a different city can download and start editing.

    The idea is that the editor can, the following day, auto-conform the original tapes, using the list s/he generated during the edit of the SD material.

    I’m not sure how to do this, or how much space we would need on the hard drive. We’re not concerned about image quality for the uploaded footage, so it can certainly be compressed so long as the TC numbers remain accurate.

    Any thoughts/ideas on this?

    thanks in advance,

    Thomas Kaufman, DP
    Washington, DC

    Mikael Kern replied 18 years, 7 months ago 6 Members · 8 Replies
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  • Noah Kadner

    July 27, 2007 at 4:44 pm

    That’s a boatload of extra work/expense- why not just fedex the tapes and be done with it?

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  • John Sharaf

    July 27, 2007 at 4:51 pm

    Yeah,

    I agree with Noah, but here’s another idea; record the audio with time code on a digital recorded like the Sound Devices 744T and you can email this file to the editor who can then paper cut by the track. Presumably because it’s an interview, all the picture would be fine and just fall right into place.

    Of course, this is one area where the Sony XDCAM system with “proxy” video files excells, but really only if you need the footage before 10:30am the following morning (via FedEx).

    JS

  • Thomas Kaufman

    July 27, 2007 at 4:54 pm

    I suppose you’re right.

    The idea is to expedite the editing for the sake of time. It is a lot of extra work and expense, but…is there a way to do it?

    thanks

    Thomas Kaufman, DP
    Washington, DC

  • Joe Biscotti

    July 27, 2007 at 10:54 pm

    Its not that easy. Hugh files!! Need lots and lots of bandwith for the upload and no to mention the download.

    No easy way to send the TC to match. Johnny makes a good suggestion for work flow using Broadcast Wave files. TC will match field tapes.

    But if the client is hell bent then you need to make sure that you send a TC window downconvert to the editor. Using the mon out of the Varicam with characters on will show the TC burn in with out any extra Boxes. You will still need a down convert box to convert the HDSDI to either SDI or Composite video.

    Another way to do this is to have the TC on one of the Audio chanels and the mix on the other. AVid can handle the TC on an Audio Track and All is good for the EDL. AGAIN HUGH FILES!!!!

    So you better have a very fast DSL or something faster for the upload, if not someone is going to be online for hours!

    Fed EX much eaiser

    Joe Biscotti

  • Noah Kadner

    July 27, 2007 at 11:05 pm

    Yep- I vote overnight FedEx vs. you rent a Sohonet connection to upload faster than overnight- that’s a lot of dough! And then you still have a major online requirement vs. just getting tapes and editing once.

    Noah

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  • Jim Watt

    July 28, 2007 at 12:51 am

    If your client is “hell bent” on immediate gratification, why not hire an SD satelite truck & have them burn in the TC in an SD down conversion & make a deal with a local tv station to take it in.

    jw

  • Joe Biscotti

    July 28, 2007 at 3:10 am

    Good point!

  • Mikael Kern

    October 17, 2007 at 8:19 am

    I have done this many times:

    Record audio mix out on channel 1 and TC on channel 2 on any kind of stereo audio recorder. Then ship the audio tape to someone who wants to transcript or get startet with editing quickly.

    It used to be mostly on cassette deck, but today I do it on my iPod. Then I email or upload the MP3 file.

    If its an interview you don

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