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  • Varicam HD-SDI out – to direct disk capture for uncompressed greenscreen

    Posted by Pierre on May 2, 2007 at 5:33 pm

    Another part of the script calls for a greenscreen composite shot.
    It’s fairly simple. A boy is floating in outer space… the stars and sun are behind him.
    Wide shot, Medium and Close.

    I would like to give the compositers the highest quality footage.
    I know it’s possible to come out of the HD-SDI on the Varicam into an AJA Kona 3 and “capture now” within Final Cut to whatever codec you choose.

    Does anybody have experience in doing this?
    How fast does a harddrive have to be to capture ‘uncompressed’.
    Which codec, data rate, compression ratio would you choose?

    thanks in advance.
    Michael

    Ray Palmer replied 19 years, 4 months ago 3 Members · 4 Replies
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  • Ray Palmer

    May 2, 2007 at 9:31 pm

    [Michael Pierre] “I know it’s possible to come out of the HD-SDI on the Varicam into an AJA Kona 3 and “capture now” within Final Cut to whatever codec you choose.”

    Please keep in mind that if you record onto tape in the Varicam and then use the HDSDI out of the camera, you will be compressed. It is only non-compressed during E to E. Off of tape, the signal is compressed.

    Ray Palmer, Engineer
    Salt River Project
    Phoenix, AZ
    602-236-8224 office
    There are three types of people in this world, those that can count and those that can’t.

  • Pierre

    May 2, 2007 at 11:20 pm

    yes. so ONLY capturing from HD-SDI… no tape at all.

  • Gary Adcock

    May 3, 2007 at 4:40 pm

    [Michael Pierre] ” know it’s possible to come out of the HD-SDI on the Varicam into an AJA Kona 3 and “capture now” within Final Cut to whatever codec you choose.
    Does anybody have experience in doing this?
    How fast does a harddrive have to be to capture ‘uncompressed’.”

    I do this regularly the
    HDSDI will give you a clean 10bit NON Compressed Capture direct from the camera on set. This does not change if the camera is recording on tape at the same time.

    For Drive speed.- for live capture I recommend nothing less than a Hardware Raid with redundancy- this is a live capture and failure of a drive in a cheap unit will destroy all of your data.

    1280x 720 60fps @ 10bit need runs about 150MBps

    gary adcock
    Studio37
    HD & Film Consultation
    Post and Production Workflows

  • Ray Palmer

    May 4, 2007 at 2:49 pm

    [gary adcock] “HDSDI will give you a clean 10bit NON Compressed Capture direct from the camera on set. This does not change if the camera is recording on tape at the same time”

    Thanks Gary, I did not know this.
    I was always told “only on E to E”.

    Ray Palmer, Engineer
    Salt River Project
    Phoenix, AZ
    602-236-8224 office
    There are three types of people in this world, those that can count and those that can’t.

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