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v5.0.2 frostbite
Hello. Anyone having trouble running v5.02 on 10.4.2? I have built 2 systems this week and they are crashing. I am using the Decklink Extreme card with the v5 driver. The boxes have 8GB of RAM and an additional internal 400GB sata, which is dedicated to capture(not journaled). I have optimized the box: set proc to highest, disabled updaters, etc. I have booted safe several times, repaired permissions, updated all pro-apps, but can not get the machines to stabilize. They are capturing at 10bit. They systems are locking up on capture, import, saving and rendering… Any ideas, suggestions??
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What are the proc speeds of your G5s?
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Well, I must say that you need to run the updates. I have never had a problem with an update up to this point in time. Secondly, I just read that Decklink has new drivers available just this week. Have you tried those yet? Next thing I have to ask, did you install the RAM youself or did you purchase the systems from Apple with all 8 gigs in them.
I do know for a fact that almost all of the programs out there only use 4 gigs as a maximum and FCP only uses 2.5 gig for it. Now, Motion may be able to use the 8 gigs but it will only help you if you have a bunch of programs running like Photoshop, FCP, Livetype, etc. What kind of systems do you have? And what kind of SATA drives do you have? Who manufactured the SATA adapter card in your computers? All of these things matter. Do you have updated drivers for all of these? What else does each of these system have running?
You have to ask all of these questions to find out what is causing the crashes. I would almost bet you that there is a conflict with the Decklink card and your Macs. Check with Decklink for any problems with this. Give that a shot.
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Wayne Carey
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Both machines are Dual 2.7. Clean builds. The Decklink card, is in the 133 slot, it has been flashed with the 5.02 driver. Before I disabled the Software Updater I ran it and updated everything. I disabled it incase any OS updater would be run by an editor… I installed the RAM 8GB (samsung). The systems run: FCP, After Effects, Adobe Creative Suite, ProTools, Cleaner6, they are loaded… And i have editors that love to I-M, surf while rendering in After Effects, digitizing in FCP, and listening to music in iTunes allll at the same time. I don’t support this kind of abuse, but we have other G5’s Dual2’s and they were solid and let the operators get away with this for over a year. The additional internal SATA is by Western Digital, it is attached to the second onboard SATA connection. Last night I was working with the operators and with just FC running we were getting the beachball on capture, render, save, import –Not every, or all the time, or even off the same tape, or while importing the same graphic -I don’t believe it’s a drive issue. I am thinking on pulling the RAM, and going down to 4GB. Could there be a leak?
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I hope someone will elaborate on this, especially if I’m wrong, but…
Don’t you need to have a RAID with a couple of drives in it in order to have the bps for uncompressed video? Even if your media drive is an internal SATA would it be fast enough for Uncompressed, or do you need to have a SATA RAID?
In the “Checking the obvious” category, you did go into the system preferences and make sure that the Capture Scratch is set to the drive you want for media, right? Amazing how that little bugger gets switched around.
DWR
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You should be on Decklink 5.1 drivers. There are also 5.2 drivers but they’ve been questionable for some users. My setup is almost identical, but only 4 gigs RAM. Try pulling it down to the Apple RAM only, though I wouldn’t know why that would be a problem. Mystery of the church.
We just got a brand new G5 system, preloaded with 10.4.2, only installed FCP Studio and drivers for the IO, nothing else, and it’s been buggy. Crashing often. I’m wondering if there are some problems with factory installed OS?
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David,
I know you can edit one layer of 8-bit uncompressed off a single SATA drive, however, I’m not sure about additional layers.
DRW
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The internal SATA can, in a crunch, do short bursts of 10 bit uncompressed. I’ve actually relied on it to do some heafty 8bit uncompressed emergency storage (with no audio).
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I would not recommend trying to capture 10 but uncompressed on a single internal SATA. You would need at least two Raided together, and preferably four. Try capturing at a lower but rate codec (such as 8 bit or DV50). The single sata should be able to handle 8 bit, but it will fill up pretty quick and therefore slow down. DV50 will be no problem on an internal SATA. For 10 bit, you should look into building an external SATA Raid, or get yourself an external fibre raid. Even though the fibre raids are pricey, you won’t be disappointed. If you are on a budget one option to check out is the Lacie S2S. It looks pretty sweet at a very sweet price, also all you need to do is install the card in the g5 and you are up and running. It also supports raid 1 and 5 redundancy in case of a drive failure.
Good luck and happy raiding.
Jeremy
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G5 Dual 2Ghz <> 4GB RAM <> FCP 5.02 <> Kona 2ATTO 42XS <> Huge Systems 1.25 TB 4105 Fibre
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