using ‘scale to frame size’ will it effect the quality on the final export?

[Walter Soyka]

Premiere’s Scale to Frame Size option seems to work before the Motion tab, and is not concatenated with any tranforms in the Motion tab.

Let’s take a practical example: RED 4k footage at 4096×2304. When you place that in a 1920×1080 and check Scale to Frame Size, Premiere scales the footage down to 1920×1080, and then makes that the new 100% in the Motion tab. If you wanted to blow-up or push into the frame, adjusting the Motion tab to say 150% would scale that new 1920×1080 frame up, rather than scaling the original 4096×2304 frame down a bit less than it had before.

My advice is to use Scale to Frame Size for all the shots you don’t care to repo, but to turn it off and manually scale the shots you do want to repo.

Walter Soyka
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[Bernhard G.]

Hello,

I absolutely agree applying the ‘Fit so Sequence’ function on all clips;
it could also be turned to default in the preferences.

I would find it helpful, if this was standard, but I would also appreciate
if there was an additional fix assigned category (beside Motion, Opacity, Retime)
in the Effect Controls window, labeled ‘Standards Conform’ or ‘Clip Format’.

Therein I would like to see options for Fit to Sequence, De-Interlacing, Frame-Blending, Color Space, etc.; everything with better control and more professional options like motion analysis;
simply everything about the behavior of a clip to match the sequence.

Wrote this feature request to Adobe. Now hoping for CS7…

Best regards,
Bernhard

[Kevin Monahan]

Thanks for the FR Bernhard.

Kevin Monahan
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[Dean Anderson]

We record our footage in 1080i and constantly need to send two different types of output to TV stations, we send a 1080i version and an NTSC (720×480)version. We have been using After Effects to do the down-converting and it looks pretty good, but I recently came across this post from Todd Kopriva that says that it is better to do it in PP. https://forums.creativecow.net/readpost/2/1008025

I tried to do it in PP, but it looks horrible. I have a quadro 5000 card and have it set to use CUDA acceleration.

My question is, what method should I use to get the best results in PP from scaling and exporting. I used the Motion>Scaling effect and scaled it down to 34%, but I have also heard that I should use “Scale to Frame size” Does anyone know the correct method? Even with “Maximum Render Quality” it still looks bad. After Effects seems to do a much better job.

Thanks for the input.

Dean Anderson

[Chris Caulder]

Ok, I’m just starting out with Premiere, but I’ve found that it does NOT affect the final export–

I use proxies since my computer is so slow. The proxies I make are LOW res (180)… and when I import them onto my 1080p timeline (24p DSLR)… they are tiny. I right-click each clip, “Scale to Frame Size” and they fill up my preview window, as expected.

Upon final export – I “replace footage” with all my original HD files… and the final MP4 (for YouTube) looks exactly like what I edited.

Took me a little while to figure that out… but, it’s simple. Hopefully that helps!